Comments on: Belgian GP: fallout

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 13:28:27 +0000

oh my god are u all serious hamilton came in 2 quick and had 2 cut the chicane if he went round the chicane properly after that late brakeing he wud have lost at least a second and dont try 2 deny it its true he shud have waited and tried it again later on in the race and none of this wud have happened and seriously lettin kimi past (just) and then gettin rite on the power again doesnt count as letting him by
all you hamilton supporters are the the same he is perfect and thats it and as for saying he is like schumacher and he didnt get penilased thats bullshit i remember a certain race where schumacher swerved all over the road 2 stop jakes from passing and the consiquences of that were the fia changing the rules so he cudnt do it again!!!!!

By: SHAZ

SHAZ — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:16:55 +0000

Stone throwin is great, everyone an expert, ferrari this mclaren that, big thing for me is that everyone should be treated the same, otherwise you loose credibility. Me i’ve lost faith seen so many wrongs in this sport. Vote with your finger TURN IT OFF.

By: gmann

gmann — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:02:02 +0000

Hi all
I am just a normal bloke sat on his sofa watching a F1….RACE!! & probably one of the best drivers of our time meaning Lewis Hamilton of cause!!
Hamilton made what i think was a legitimate move to avoid a collision wile being pushed of the track & it just happened too be on a chicane
It was one of the most thrilling endings of recent times in F1 & am shocked & disappointed at the judges decision on taking Hamilton’s win off him & moving him into third place
I fully understand that rules need too be in place for fairness & safety but….
Lets not forget people…..
It is called F1 RACING
HAMILTON WAS ROBED!!!

By: Dave CBM Ford

Dave CBM Ford — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:02:43 +0000

I Think its time to take F1 back to basics, bring back a left footed clutch, with a real stick shift change, Real slicks, less electronics, and bring back real driver ability, real overtaking, out braking, real down shifting, might make it a bit more dangorous, but much more watchable !!!! Also let see lewis win the championship !!!!!!

By: santiagofdz

santiagofdz — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:22:18 +0000

The fact that Autosport revealed, about Race Control telling the Mclaren team that the move was OK during the race, makes me think again that the main problem here is steward consistency! Make a choice once and stick to it! And understand that such a choice sets a precedent. They need to keep the burocracy down; If they wish to inspire credibility they need a system that guarantees this!

That said, it won’t be the end of F1; It is not the first time a victory will be controversial, nor the last. Knee-jerk reactions from dumb fans who post on the internet won’t solve anything either!

By: Welshjim

Welshjim — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:35:57 +0000

It is interesting the pro Ferrari people who say it was an advantage because he cut the chicane well all i can say is well spotted do you know anything else about F1. Any overtaking in a chicane requires both drivers to give a little to avoid an accident. Cutting corners in chicanes to avoid accidents is normal and quite common in tracks with these corners like Monza. Lewis backed off and so i ask the pro Ferrari when is Hamilton allowed to re attack. Funny we are going to Monza next which oops has a long fast start stright with a chicane at the end. So what are the drivers expected to do now when on the start 20 cars dive in their. It is quite common for cars to get it wrong and cut the corner after they give back the positions when can they start racing again as this is now unclear.

race control told Mclaren it was ok during the race so why the issue after. 2006 mass damper and Monza farce, 2007 Mclaren unfairly found guilty but Renault aren’t of spying, French penalty was a little harsh in 2008, Valencia no time or point penalty for Massa but a similar incident in GP2 was apparently punished and now we have spa.

By: FIA Idiots

FIA Idiots — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:04:31 +0000

You forget Raikonnen took down his own fuel man, obviously unsafe yet nothing came of it.

And the comment about “sun, moon and stars fly from his backside” could also be said of Ferrari fans.

By: Marc

Marc — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:04:13 +0000

Red Barron,

I don’t think we’re saying that at all. He was justifiably punished for that, and when he rear ended Alonso that was a fair cop too. I think this case is entirely different though- and coupled with a miriad of other decisions over the years it’s created a really bad taste in the mouth. People who don’t follow F1 see things like this and come to the conclusion that F1 is about as much a sport as WWE wrestling.

Personally I’d love to see Massa win the championship, but if he wins it by a margin of less than 6 points this year he’s going to spend the rest of his life defending his right to hold it. And that does noone any good.

By: Red Barron

Red Barron — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:21:43 +0000

Why is it you lot cannot see past Hamilton and Mclaren. It really is sad as you all seem to think that the sun, moon and stars fly from his backside. He is not a saint you know. Funny how you all forgot the incident in the Canadian grand prix were Hamilton hammered into Kimi. I supose the stewards must have disconected his brakes or something!!!!!

By: FIA Idiots

FIA Idiots — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:30:50 +0000

Forgot to mention, according to the official FIA letter from the stewards, the offence commited by Hamilton in breaching Article 30.3(a) of the 2008 FIA FORMULA ONE SPORTING REGULATIONS and Appendix L chapter 4 Article 2(g) of the INTERNATIONAL SPORTING CODE, nowhere refer to taking an advantage by going of track in any way.

Article 30.3(a) of the 2008 FIA FORMULA ONE SPORTING REGULATIONS clearly states:
“During practice and the race, drivers may use only the track and must at all times observe the provisions of the Code relating to driving behaviour on circuits.”

Appendix L chapter 4 Article 2(g) of the INTERNATIONAL SPORTING CODE states:
“The race track alone shall be used by the drivers during the race.” (this is the section from the CODE OF DRIVING CONDUCT ON CIRCUITS an refered to in Article 30.3(a) of the 2008 FIA FORMULA ONE SPORTING REGULATIONS)

So according to the FIA regulation he is accutually guilty of breaching the regulations he is accused of by going of the track across the chicane.

But watching the race it is obvious that almost the entire field went of the track a some point during the race, in breach of this ludicrous regulation, yet were not penalised as Hamilton was.

Also why is a drive through penalty and a stop and go penalty both 25 seconds. I think someone hasn’t done their maths.