So here’s a cool little piece of video analysis that one of our users has made, but be quick before FOM take it down. (Be aware that this is nothing to do with Top Gear.)
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its about racing and driving on the track
in this case in first try hamilton did not gained advantage. so is kimi soposed to let him through just because he wants to?
silly silly i find this situation
proper racing driver would try it in a different line and a different chicane
hamilton supposedly knew that in that chicane it is impossible to overtake. and then in a slow mo you can see that he did make a decision to cut the chicane instead of braking and staying behind kimi for the straght.
Edgars. did Raikkonen get back on the track immediately when both him and Hamilton ran wide later in the lap?
Hamilton did. Raikkonen didn’t and gained a huge advantage by finding more grip running around the edge of the track and not actually on it.
as for two movements done by Kimi. it looks like he was trying to move right but there was Lewis really close so he backed off (moved to the left) and after a very short while (because Lewis in the meantime moved to the left) continue his move into right.
damp track, two powerful cars, dry tires and two damn good drivers with “all or nothing” attitude. that’s was F1 should be about.
and look how close to the Lewis’ tail was Kimi going trough La Source.
and the comment about Kimi’s run around the corner. it was quite a fast one, track was damp, slippery kerbs and also grass. it’s not so easy to go back on the track. you can see such a moves very often on modern tracks with this big, tarmac-covered run-off areas (just to mention Turkey).
what F1 should be about*, sorry
That is stupid hamilton as it shows crossed the line second he also slowed to let kimi pass which is the rules after that it is down to him what he does and it is not the drivers fault if he reacts better.. hamilton should be first end of
From the point of view of a Raikkonen fan, I don’t think that Hamilton should have got the penalty that he did. However, he didn’t comply with the rules because he didn’t back off to the point he was at prior to the corner (a few tenths at least) and so gained a bit of a slipstream instead of dirty air. I also remember reading that the driver must back off and not make a pass for a further few corners but I’m not 100% sure.
If he was to be penalised then he should have got a fine and a slap on the wrist, not a drive-through.
More worrying for Hamilton fans though is why he made the move into the final chicane? He was clearly faster than Kimi so why not wait till the pit straight or get a tow up Eau Rouge and into La Source. I guess it’s just a little bit of inexperience but he needs to play the percentage game - the stewards are being biased no doubt about it, so he just needs to rise above it and keep his nose clean until such a time that they stop being biased!
Not the 1st time this season he’s been done for cutting a chicane and not allowing the other car back though (although that was a bit of a different situation and at least this time he made an attempt)!
I though Hamilton clearly gave back the advantage, he was nose-by-rear wheel going off at the bus stop and gave a full car length on the straight. He might have had half a second of slipstream, but he had already given back the advantage. He wasted Raikkonnen going into La Source.
I think after seeing that, i was right in my intial stance that hamilton illegal gained an advantage however he relinquished it and not to the point where kimi’s nose was mm ahead he dropped behind him to a similar position to the entrance to the chicane (which when they entered he was clealy ahead) once giving the place up in my eyes the drivers are back on level terms and advantage is over and therefore race continues (sort of like coming out of a yellow flag area in regards to overtaking), in my eyes the stewards are completely biased because hamilton should not be penalised the time he had when there was no advantage for the likes of massa i mean come on he werent near it, if your going to punish him fine him but 25sec drop is a bit much even by todays standards. If you ask me sack the stewards they don’t have a clue i make this point when massa didnt get anything for nearly causing an accident where as hamilton loses a race because he cut a corner boo hoo no one is going to get hurt because of it, and hamilton should be given the win and cross the line result to be re-instated.
also enquiry into the stewards as i reckon there could be something funny going on.
rant over cheers all
First off I would like to say that I constantly hope that Hamilton’s car dies every race so the ITV commentators could find someone else to talk about for 2 hours. But if this decision is upheld then F1 has once again descended into farce.
Data shows he backed off to allow Raikonnen back in front. The championship is dead again (second year in a row), because of bureaucracy.
Hi all. I too have been watching F1 for more than 20 years, and I might agree with you all… except for one thing: If Hamilton does not cut the corner the alternative to make the corner is ??? b r a k i n g. If he brakes for the corner he would have lost a LOT of ground. By cutting the corner he controlled how much he gave back to Kimi. Now, it might be legitimate as he is technically allowed to cut the corner as long as he lets the other go in front, but I think he cut it too close and the stewards thinking might have been that he should have “tucked” behind Kimi through the corner.
tcxgarcia i absolutely agree with you
Doesn’t the squeeze Raikkonen put on Hamilton look eerily similar to the block Trulli put on Montoya at Spa in 2004?Anyone remember what happened that time?Montoya refused to yield,or take avoiding action,and clattered into the side of Trulli,spinning the Renault and costing them both positions.So,for avoiding an incident,which looks increasingly inevitable the more I watch the incident,Lewis gets a penalty.Awesome.Maybe he should’ve just spun Kimi and carried on,he wouldn’t have had anyone to contend with and would definitely not have lost as much time over the following two laps,perhaps enough time to void the 25sec penalty?Haha sounds viable,I know.But then the F.I.A would’ve disqualified Lewis instead of penalising him.And,even if not,would the Ferrari fans and team not still cry foul?Do we want to watch a sport where taking your opponent out is more viable than doing the logical,appropriate and fair thing?Damned if you do,damned if you don’t.Writing this has brought a new perspective,I’m now even more disillusioned with Formula One,even more disappointed with what it’s become.Sad,really.
Yeah but is it in the rules that he can’t tuck right behind if he did? No it isn’t it is the interpretation of the stewards who would have penalized him either way. They are biased. And I may also like to point out, if anyone body watched wind tunnel with David Despain on sunday, one viewer pointed towards racism which seems very likely considering how he was treated even when he first entered the sport.
Lewis won the race fair and square. Us in the colonies even agree the Brit won and Kimi was just having a run of bad luck. FIA should be ashamed of itself for pandering to what seems to be Ferrari’s spilled milk.
I watched the entire race. I think they both knew Lewis was faster, and I think Kimi knew it early on. He was having to drive the crap out of that car to keep it ahead of Lewis. Sadly the FIA is a little biased. This coming from a Ferrari follower since I was young. Not any more. i love F1 and follow it like anyone does in Europe and can see what is going on here.
Lastly if you know Lewis and if you know his past, the FIA is only asking from him to spank everyone at Monza so they he shows the world and FIA they have to let it stand where it stands. Lewis is just a better driver this year and is running all over the other guys in the red cars.
Anyway you look at it Lewis is going to own Monza!
I think Hamilton did get an advantage. If there was a wall instead of open space, he would have crashed or he had to braked hard and lost momentum ( speed ), and will be a fair way behind in the next few seconds. So, there will be no overtaking move then.
oh look they removed the video who would have guessed?( basically everyone)
I agree with Boon - had hamilton done the right thing, slowed down and driven around the last corner, he would have had no chance of an overtaking manouver down the start/finish straight.
going into the chicane hamilton was half way even with raikkonen, after cut and going down the straight he was behind raikkonen in full. how the HELL is that an advantage? god people are stupid, and like stated in the video hamilton was not gaining an advantage form a slipstream, he was not directly behind raikkonen except for the split second he cut behind and then took the lead, which is not enough to utilize a slipstream.
To Anderson, what was your point in bringing up football to bash the brits for know reason? Im from the US, not britain and im NOT a hamilton=god person, but hamilton won that race fairly and without question. the penalty he received was a blatant discrimination and right out theft of his first place finish.
there was no dirty racing there. just dirty politics.
Anderson…..an Aussie by any chance are you? Hmmmm thought so…..
Whilst I think it is silly to resort to mudslinging, I am going to anyway. When did Australia last win Rugby world cup? When did Australia last beat England in the Rugby world cup? Where did Australia come in the medals tables in the Olympics? Not looking quite so bright now, are you Anderson? That said I think Webber is a good driver and Aussies are nation of great sportsmen/women.
Ugh, I feel dirty after dragging myself down to your level.
Oh, and Hamilton was robbed, clear as day. I think he is probably walking with a limp after being shagged in the a*!e by the FIA so roughly.
Think about this: If Lewis had slowed down and gone around the last corner (before the start/finish straight), he wouldn’t have been next to Kimi going down the whole main strait.
That is actually a big advantage, because by the time he was fully behind Kimi, they were already at the end of the straight and in the braking zone. Here, it actually gives Lewis the advantage because he’s not only in the perfect position to attack Kimi, he doesn’t have to brake as hard as Kimi to attack the corner. (kimi would have been carrying more speed at that point)
Essentially Lewis had managed to position his car very close behind his opponent at the best point to overtake, but didn’t have to do it by being faster than the opponent. (he had the luxury of just slowing down towards the corner)
Anderson. Several points. First this isn’t V8 Supercars so those rules don’t apply. Second, being lifted out of the sandtrap is illegal now, it wasn’t then. That’s why they changed the rule. Third, we’re not all whinging poms who would have cried foul play if Schumacher had done it - I was a Schumacher fan throughout his career even when he was racing Hill and Coulthard and there are plenty more like me.
As for sucking at sports, where did you finish in the Olympics medals table? And didn’t we stuff you at the last 2 rugby world cups? And the funniest thing of all? Our flag is still on your flag.
Re: James
“Here, it actually gives Lewis the advantage because he’s not only in the perfect position to attack Kimi, he doesn’t have to brake as hard as Kimi to attack the corner. (kimi would have been carrying more speed at that point)”
that is just very wrong. You still has to brake a lot later than the guy in front to be able to come from behind and be side-by-side, if not ahead, turning into the corner…
Ok, I’m Aussie too. And we’ve only got 25 million people so we’re doin pretty well in the sports world. And we have nice weather.
Now, irrelevant and pointless comments aside, this was a fantastic race. Unfortunately, the FIA decided to intervene for reasons that I cannot work out. Maybe it’s a ferrari bias, maybe it’s to keep the championship close, maybe it’s because we all love a bit of controversy and (despite what many people are saying) the recent events could boost the Monza ratings significantly. And maybe the stewards are just full of themselves and enjoy punishing race drivers for being race drivers.
Basically, Hamilton’s penalty was way over the top and will probably be overturned or reduced in the coming weeks. He deserved the win and Felipe Massa did not. It’s a real shame that Kimi couldn’t finish because he had a brilliant race too.
The real argument is about consistency of the stewards, if they believe the 25s is right (i.e. a drive through penalty) for this infringement. Then the Ferrari pit fiasco with Massa in the last race which also by the rules should have been a drive through penalty should have attracted the same. Meaning Massa would have been demoted at that race.
That is really what’s wrong with F1 and leads to the belief of favouritism. As someone has already said on this post Kimi derived a great advantage driving off track on the next lap but attracted no penalty. Why?
The same rules should be applied to all drivers! Of course that then kills the idea completely that F1 is racing. I still can’t get my head around the idea of the blue flag, where is the skill in that?
The simple way to stop people cutting corners to potentially gain an advantage is to bring back gravel traps. If drivers knew they would get beached or significantly slowed down they would stay on the trap. At least it was nice to see a bit of actual one to one racing, if only for a lap, how long before the FIA ban that.
I definitely agree with your point about the blue flag Ian, it just isnt racing anymore.
I don’t want to see this sort of racing penalised.
I want to see this sort of racing all the time!
Get over ot brits. Learn to lose. Go Ferrari!
Interesting article, slightly different perspective:
http://www.wheels24.co.za /Content/Columnists/Egmo nt_Sippel/66/fbd042eedfd2 418b8dad14368bec3206/01-0 1-0001%2012-01/Egmont’s%2 0F1%20column%20Niki-gate
Anderson, you didn’t take your pills today did you ?
maybe Lewis did gain an advantage when he cut the corner, but don’t forget on the last lap before he overtook Kimi he was several seconds faster. besides I don’t see the point of giving a fine one week and 25 seconds penalty the next. and how did they get THAT number, if you look at the official classification, Lewis is 1.2 sec after Heidfeld (that is a bit too hollywood)!
so hello FIArrari
The stewards looked at when Hamilton came out of the last corner of the lap; he was ahead. And for that TINY SPEC of time he gained the ilegal advantage.
Really Fair, Let the race results be determined before that corner (Rai, Ham, Mas). Else, Raikonen was out, and Massa and Hiedfeld were never a factor, so why drop hamilton behind both.
That is a good analysis, however, the guy who made it does not have a clear enough understanding of the regulations, fair enough Raikkonen may have made 2 defensive manouvres, but he is still stupid for covering the inside into La Source.
The rules do state that Hamilton can not attempt to overtake Raikkonen for another two corners on the track, also, the video fails to spot the very valid point, which is where the penaulty comes from;
If Hamilton did not cut the chicane, he would not have been able to overtake in La Source to begin with, also, he only lifted off to let Raikkonen back past momentarily, with no intention of letting him regain the lead. Hamilton used the situation of cutting the chicane to his advantage.
And those who are barking about conspiracy theories, I remind you that any other driver in the same position would have been penalised and if it was Schumacher he would have got it worse (1995 Belgian GP remember? = 1 race ban).
But, knowing all the Hamilton and Mclaren fans, they will continue to deny and dismiss everything as b*******, after all, it’s only natural too feel cheated in this scenario.
Also old burnt chops Niki Lauda is barking mad as usual, it seems that all the old drivers mave no clue what they are on about, they fail to understand that it’s not the same as anymore, people do not move aside or give their car to let someone else win the title.
to the Top Gear people if they really will watch hundreds and thousands of comment we’ve posted, could you please also add the video of De La Rosa and Michael Schumacher at Hungary 2006?
that would make for a very interesting comparison of how a red car managed to cut a chicane to pass and not give the position back, and obviously not penalised.
I thought the whole idea of F1 was to have a race around a track on a Sunday afternoon.
Is it just me or has the F1 done one of two things, one made yet another decision that, and lets be honest here, just sums up why people are not bothered anymore if they catch the F1 or not! and yet at the exact same time point Two got everyone talking about F1 again…. hmm!
As an open fan of simply the sport, I simply pose the question surely those last 10 minutes were some of the best action I’ve seen in ages, so why go and spoil it with a decision that really didn’t need to be made, Kimi crashed all on his own and lost the lead arguement over!
There are some key points, which are wrong in this “give Lewis his prize back, boo-hoo” video:
1. “Hamilton cuts the chicane to avoid the collision”.. Wait a second; so he drives a car with no brakes? Did Raikkonen forced him to force his nosecone next to his wheel? I don’t think so..
2. Let’s say Lewize doesn’t know how to use his brakes properly, and did cut the chicane; why did he accelerate while cutting the chicane, or immediately afterwards, so that he was in front of Raikkonen? He should’ve maintained a slower pace until Raikkonen was in front of him, as it was before cutting the chicane.
3.”JUST behind” - oh no, he shouldn’t be JUST behind; he should be at a car’s length behind when giving up the positio, NOT the same distance he was before cutting the chicane. These are strict rules, and the drivers are informed of them, when they are briefed for the race.
You can see Hamilton did NOT have to cut the chicane, he just could have braked, letting Kimi take the corner and follow him round. By cutting the chicane he gained an advantage, ie not losing the time that backing off completely and taking the corner cleanly would have lost him.
re: MOBYman
watch this clip (if it hasn’t been taken down by FOM already) and see WHICH RED TEAM has rules for them and them only.
http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=-5UnPeyzcHM
that was clearly cutting the chicane and that went unpunished.
First of all, Hamilton was never ahead of Raikkonen before the chicane…Yes technically his nose is a little in front at some point but he was never going to pass Raikkonen right there. Would he not have cut the corner he wouldn’t be able to be that close to Raikkonen going over the start/finish straight.
Second, Raikkonen is not on the racing line as the vid suggests, he is at the moment he’s coming out of the chicane but then he sees Hamilton on the inside going on towards/at the racing line and he has to keep on the dirtier right side of the track.
Anyway, how many overtaking did you see all during the race at the chicane apart from the start and Hamilton’s spin? Exactly…none.
In F1 at Spa the start/finish straight is too short to overtake unless the guy in front makes a mistake. Hamilton would never have been able to make that pass if it weren’t for cutting the chicane at that point, that he could have done so later on doesn’t change that.
It was a fair decision by the stewards.
If Lewis is right or wrong i think the big contreversy is the fact that penalties are not clearly outlined or are not used consistantly.
Should Alonso have recieved a fine of 10,000 euros like massa for a clearly less dangerous mistake?
I thinks lewis’ penalty was too harsh, but watever happens it will be a thrilling end to the championship.
The fans want to see fair racing and brave moves, thats why we love watching the best drivers in the best cars in the best motoracing championship.
some people say Hamilton couldve just braked instead of cutting the chicane. No he couldnt. Kimi was moving across him- fairly- and braking would not have prevented the collision as both cars were going slowly anyway. had Hamilton continued around the chicane, regardless of his speed, Kimis rear wheel wouldve made contact with the front of Hamiltons. I had a better view than the cameras for this as I was on some high banking overlooking the chicane. It was obvious that the only way to avoid the collision was to veer off. And whoever said ‘hamilton knew overtaking was impossible at the chicane,’ I remember seeing a couple of passes at the chicane in the F1 and even more in the GP2.
In the video, at 0:04 you can see that the gap is more than 1 car length. Hamilton tried to fly pass but overshot it. Instead of following the chicane and risking an almost complete halt, he cuts it. After that there was never anything close to 1 car length gap between them. Instead of losing ground due to failed overtake, Lewis Hamilton was instead closer to Kimi Räkkönen than before the chicane.
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i think that the fia is wrong they shoud make the 25 seconds less and i feel very sorry for lewis . form a ferrari fan gi
I’m so tired of non-British people thinking that we all think Hamilton is God..’Good’,maybe(but I must admit,these posts don’t help our case lol).A large proportion of us Brits are REAL(not just nationalistic morons jumping on the latest bandwagon when we start being good at it)F1 fans and are not biased towards Hamilton:believe it or not,a hell of alot of us actually get really pissed-off by all the Hamilton-hype,espeically the ITV coverage which turns the GP coverage into a Lewis love-in.I don’t hate the guy but neither do I think he walks on water.I admit,I don’t like his spoilt brat attitude and PR robot ‘personality’and that’s my prerogative but I can also appreciate that Lewis Automaton is a great driver but he just doesn’t ‘inspire’ me like some drivers have done in the past.Hmm now,give the two Sebs the right car and that could be a different matter…;)
I agree with what Anderson said (both parts actually) and what also Ionut Mirea mentioned. Hamilton was at fault and also that all of this protesting, mainly by the Hamilton fanboys just has to stop because it is that what is going to damage F1 more than the stewards decision. Just let it rest and play nicely.
I can’t believe that some stubborn people are still defiant that Hamilton did wrong. That video was an UNBIASED ANALYSIS!!!!
I think its fair to say LH did get an advantage from not breaking & following KR through the chicane, but cutting the corner instead - but I still think the penalty was far too harsh as it did not have any impact on the final result. Maybe a demotion down the grid in monza would have been a more appropriate penalty. The bottom line though is, not withstanding any appeals, we have a more exciting climax to the season to enjoy.
I think that the stewards were wrong for handing Hamilton the penalty. People have said that he didnt brake enough, but if you look at both driver’s speed when entering the corner they are pretty much at the same speed, he only cut the corner to avoid the (legitimate) squeeze from Kimi.
To give a reason why I prefer MotoGP: This year at Laguna Seca, Valentino Rossi and Casey Stoner were battling for the lead, and a similar incident occured. Both coming into the corkscrew, Rossi outbrakes Stoner, has to cut the chicane, and coming back onto the track infront of Stoner, they nearly crash. Rossi didnt relinquish the lead. No penalties were handed out because like in Spa, it was tough and exciting racing, in other words, what everyone wants to see, and I feel that unlike the MotoGp stewards, the Formula 1 stewards fail to realise this, preffering to settle as many races as possible on political grounds.
It is clear why people are upset by Hamilton’s penalty, because he, like Rossi, came out on top of a thrilling battle for the lead, and people do not like to see that taken away from anyone.
I’m going back to watching repeats of Dallas although I have to admit that the plots aren’t up to F1 standards. Maybe this could be a new business opportunity for Eccelstone…. F1 the soap opera. Here’s what happened in last weeks episode, Hamilton won… then he didn’t… then they found out that the stewards had bought the plans for the new Smart V12 from a disgruntled employee and sold them to a Russian billionaire who having failed to make a go of a small sports car company from the UK has decided to build the Tusca SLR based in a high tech factory just outside of Woking. Only problem… the factory already has an owner… next episode in two weeks. Bernie could I have a walk on part?
Not too upset but this video was done by me and I posted it on YouTube and I’m not one of your users. Thanks for all the comments though.
great video. i’m sure FOM will take it off the web though, as it highlights their stupidity.
What a genius you are jamie,got anymore vids to post and hand to FIA,It clearly shows Lewis was robbed and FIA are bias.
this shows just good racing, no infractions or offence. every decision made on both sides was fair.
The only advantage that Hammy gained, was still having a car in one piece from the attempted Kimi-chop.
Had he not got out of the way, he would have had a Ferrari in his lap.
oh what a bulls*it…
If Hamilton would stayd in track, there is no way he could had overtake Kimi on following straight…
Its clear case, i dont understand hasllin’ around it…
This has rendered the race pharsical in the same way that the medals were taken back from the paralimpians after the wheelscahir race is pharsical. Ofg courrse there should be uproar, its affecting the credibilty of the sport !
Some valid comments. I support the view that Hamilton correctly ceded position to Raikkonen after cutting the chicane, and then what happened thereafter was just bloody good racing. The Stewards should ghave (IMHO) kept their noses out of it - as I understand it there was no protest from Ferrari over the incident. However, let’s wait and see what happens at the appeal. It’ll be nice hearing the opinion of a bunch of folk that know sod all about F1 (present company excepted - well, most of them anyway)
great, shame the officials where watching another race at the time.
Stupid move by Hamilton, clearly shows he’s a rookie… No matter how much i dislike the guy (and I really do!) he was way, way faster than Kimi in that lap. Making his move in the Busstop was stupid and impossible. As I see it he could have easily overtaken Kimi on the straight past eau-rouge. Ok, he avoides collision…what a gentleman(ironic!)! If they had collided it would have been he’s own stupid fault in the first place. He should have taken it like a man and should have hit the brakes, there was plenty of room to do so. He would have payed for his own over-enthousiasm and would have lost maybe a second. No problem he would have taken Kimi anyhow later in the lap as he was furiously faster. Cutting a corner to get on a guy’s tail is not what racing is all about (everybody must admit that the advantage was obvious), and I don’t care what senile niki lauda has te say about it.
Anyhoe, I enjoyed that last two laps very much, it was one of the great duels in F1, the aftermath doesn’t change that at all…
The punishment was very well deserved, the championship is not dead either! On the contrary, it is very much alive. Next stage, monza - home of the tifosi, I’m looking forward to it.
next time Hamilton should just take Raikkonen out…
Firstly nice vid and good explanantions…
The penalty was completely wrong, Hamilton didnt gain any real advantage by cutting the chicane, Kimi had a much better drive out of the corner and comfortably overtook him. Any comments about the distance prior to the chicane are wrong, if you watch it you will see they were side by side coming into the chicane, Hamilton could have braked and followed Kimi through the corner but he elected to cut it so as to ensure there was no accident, he then ligitametly overtook at the next corner when Kimi took the wrong line and braked too early because of the conditions. I’m sure if it was dry Hamilton would have stayed in second at the next corner and overtaken him later in the lap.
Hamilton was at the start of the video more than one one length behind Kimi. Lewis had better braking in the wet so could brake later and pass Kimi. Lewis started from the outside line and halfway through the chicane he was on the inside line and hoping that Kimi would give him the place. However, this is not the case, as Lewis hopes for Kimi to stay wide but Kimi cuts across Hamilton because Kimi had a better line into the corner and therefore more speed and repassed Lewis. Within Kimis manouvere there is very little time to react and Kimi has made his move as well as Hamilton. Lewis is slightly behind as Kimi is about to touch the apex. Lewis has little chance of avoiding a collision with Kimi and has the only option of cutting the corner. Braking on the apex is dangerously slippy and would most certainly made Hamilton maintain speed and cause a collision so his only option to avoid the collision is to cut the corner. Kimi has better acceleration out of the corner and Lewis allows Kimi to pass (at this point the two cars are in the exact same position as they were going into the chicane). Going down the straight Kimi moves left for a better line into the corner, however, Hamilton moves to his right and attempts to get in front of Kimi and defend the corner (this is similar to what happened going into the bus stop chicane but the drivers have switched places) and Hamilton successfully makes the pass. I do understand that the rules were stretched a little but Hamilton did give Kimi his place back even though it was only for a short period. Does it really matter that Hamilton passed Kimi anyway? Hamilton gave the position back again later on in the lap (by accident), Kimi was in the lead and then he crashed and Kimi was forced to retire. Lewis then claimed victory. The McLaren team were also confirmed twice that his manouvere was ok and that he had given the place back succesfully. Hamilton was clearly the faster car and was able to outbreak Kimi and accelerate earlier, Hamilton was bound to pass later on anyway and Kimis crash was a stroke of bad luck. Hamilton would of won regardless of the incident.
This was taken from another article on this website:
“Move on to the FIA official press conference, and the inevitable question: ‘What did you make of the Hamilton incident at Spa?’ Giancarlo Fisichella, Sebastien Bourdais, Jarno Trulli, Nico Rosberg and Felipe Massa said that Hamilton definitely did gain an advantage by taking to the run-off area but
all five agreed that the 25-second penalty was harsh.”
Here are a bunch of real F1 drivers who were there that day, and they all agree that Hamilton definitely did gain an advantage. I feel more inclined to trust their view on the matter.