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		<title>By: ryusen</title>
		<link>http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/09/23/the-decision/#comment-4541</link>
		<dc:creator>ryusen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While i admit i&#039;m rooting to Lewis, i can see why the penalty was awarded.  My thinking though is that if a penalty was awarded AFTER the race, it should have been a grid penalty, for the next race, rather than retroactively changing the times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While i admit i&#8217;m rooting to Lewis, i can see why the penalty was awarded.  My thinking though is that if a penalty was awarded AFTER the race, it should have been a grid penalty, for the next race, rather than retroactively changing the times.</p>
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		<title>By: F1Wannabe</title>
		<link>http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/09/23/the-decision/#comment-3517</link>
		<dc:creator>F1Wannabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bonkers. Fact is; Hamilton let Raikkonen through after cutting the chicane/corner and a then, just (quite literally) a few corners later, Hamilton went off avoiding a BMW recovering to the circuit. Raikkonen spears through to regain the lead but throws it off immediately to let Hamilton back into the lead again to win. Therefore, despite the chicane-cutting nonsense, Raikkonen was presented with a clear opportunity to win the race but threw it away. And its all recorded for all to see. And, no, I&#039;m not a McLaren fan. Or a Ferrari fan. And I don&#039;t believe the FIA have a pro-Ferrari bias - although I do think (its obvious) they have a policy to artificially &#039;balance&#039; the championship results to the end of the season. Why do the FIA feel the need to keep making their bureaucracy felt at every opportunity when its at the expense of why we tune-in to watch (the racing)? I suppose they can&#039;t help being (largely) French...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonkers. Fact is; Hamilton let Raikkonen through after cutting the chicane/corner and a then, just (quite literally) a few corners later, Hamilton went off avoiding a BMW recovering to the circuit. Raikkonen spears through to regain the lead but throws it off immediately to let Hamilton back into the lead again to win. Therefore, despite the chicane-cutting nonsense, Raikkonen was presented with a clear opportunity to win the race but threw it away. And its all recorded for all to see. And, no, I&#8217;m not a McLaren fan. Or a Ferrari fan. And I don&#8217;t believe the FIA have a pro-Ferrari bias &#8211; although I do think (its obvious) they have a policy to artificially &#8216;balance&#8217; the championship results to the end of the season. Why do the FIA feel the need to keep making their bureaucracy felt at every opportunity when its at the expense of why we tune-in to watch (the racing)? I suppose they can&#8217;t help being (largely) French&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zargi</title>
		<link>http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/09/23/the-decision/#comment-3505</link>
		<dc:creator>Zargi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all the mclaren fans believing the FIA is biased towards ferrari.. for even smaller mistakes Schumacher got wanked.. or even put in the back of the track.. Hamilton got away with dangerous acts in Monza, remember pushing trulli and webber off the track on tottaly wet gras? Gestures (fist shaking) to a slower driver in front of him even if he wasnt doubling him? And let us not forget that Mclaren has been performing poorly since 2000 (or even before) but a miracle has happened last year.. putting them on the front rows again (hmm after the spy-scandal, how odd). Ferrari has been fighting for the title for 12 consecutive years now, leading to rules changes and what not.. so please drop the act</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all the mclaren fans believing the FIA is biased towards ferrari.. for even smaller mistakes Schumacher got wanked.. or even put in the back of the track.. Hamilton got away with dangerous acts in Monza, remember pushing trulli and webber off the track on tottaly wet gras? Gestures (fist shaking) to a slower driver in front of him even if he wasnt doubling him? And let us not forget that Mclaren has been performing poorly since 2000 (or even before) but a miracle has happened last year.. putting them on the front rows again (hmm after the spy-scandal, how odd). Ferrari has been fighting for the title for 12 consecutive years now, leading to rules changes and what not.. so please drop the act</p>
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		<title>By: F1Yankee</title>
		<link>http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/09/23/the-decision/#comment-3504</link>
		<dc:creator>F1Yankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sameer said...
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080924103718.shtml

This is Disgusting


no, it&#039;s not. financially, $1M, or 500K pounds, is chump change to them. more importantly, they knew the appeal was inadmissible before they left spa. they were willing to pay this price in order to take a chance at recovering the lost points, but more so to simply not go down without a fight.

i think they made the right decision to attempt an appeal, and the fia was right to deny it. had the appeal been heard, i hope we can all agree it had some pretty terrible odds of succeeding, and i think that&#039;s right as well. not because i&#039;m a fan of this or that, but because the governing body should not reverse themselves every time there is a close call such as this. does FIFA use instant replay to review every play, constantly overturning the referee&#039;s decisions?

i do hope the sport improves as a result of this, with clearly written rules enforced fairly and consistently by highly trained, regular officials. however, this remains a sport of human participants, and therefore prone to error. that&#039;s fine, too. the last thing f1 needs is to become even more boring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sameer said&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080924103718.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://en.f1-live.com/f1/ en/headlines/news/detail/ 080924103718.shtml</a></p>
<p>This is Disgusting</p>
<p>no, it&#8217;s not. financially, $1M, or 500K pounds, is chump change to them. more importantly, they knew the appeal was inadmissible before they left spa. they were willing to pay this price in order to take a chance at recovering the lost points, but more so to simply not go down without a fight.</p>
<p>i think they made the right decision to attempt an appeal, and the fia was right to deny it. had the appeal been heard, i hope we can all agree it had some pretty terrible odds of succeeding, and i think that&#8217;s right as well. not because i&#8217;m a fan of this or that, but because the governing body should not reverse themselves every time there is a close call such as this. does FIFA use instant replay to review every play, constantly overturning the referee&#8217;s decisions?</p>
<p>i do hope the sport improves as a result of this, with clearly written rules enforced fairly and consistently by highly trained, regular officials. however, this remains a sport of human participants, and therefore prone to error. that&#8217;s fine, too. the last thing f1 needs is to become even more boring.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/09/23/the-decision/#comment-3502</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say having watched the whole thing numerous times (including the fantastic in car stuff) I&#039;m not so sure Hamilton was in the right, but I think it was a 50-50 call, another day, another race he might have gotten away with it and all the Ferrari fans would be complaining instead. 

Ultimately, the championship will (hopefully) be decided on the track with no FIA interference. However, they do have a habit of making sure that a season has a close finish if they can help it, unless there&#039;s a runaway winner. Does anyone remember Irvine being disqualified for illegal barge boards in the penultimate race in 1999 and that was overturned preventing Hakkinen from winning the championship that race? Or the FIA mucking about towards the end of Alonso&#039;s first championship win? As Bernie always says F1 is in the business of entertainment, until that mission statement is revoked and the sport and competition put back on the agenda there&#039;ll always be a slightly dirty taste with every champion. Schumacher was a money man&#039;s dream fast and brilliant but with so maany controversial decisions going his way, it&#039;s hard to feel that there wasn&#039;t some behind the scenes FIA tinkerage  to get what they wanted, same with Villeneuve, Hill, hakkinen and Alonso. Too much politics not enough sport.

Also does anyone know why a Ferrari lawyer was allowed to be present to argue against McLaren at their appeal? Are other teams representatives are normally allowed to be present at the hearings? or were there extenuating circumstances allowing this for this particular appeal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say having watched the whole thing numerous times (including the fantastic in car stuff) I&#8217;m not so sure Hamilton was in the right, but I think it was a 50-50 call, another day, another race he might have gotten away with it and all the Ferrari fans would be complaining instead. </p>
<p>Ultimately, the championship will (hopefully) be decided on the track with no FIA interference. However, they do have a habit of making sure that a season has a close finish if they can help it, unless there&#8217;s a runaway winner. Does anyone remember Irvine being disqualified for illegal barge boards in the penultimate race in 1999 and that was overturned preventing Hakkinen from winning the championship that race? Or the FIA mucking about towards the end of Alonso&#8217;s first championship win? As Bernie always says F1 is in the business of entertainment, until that mission statement is revoked and the sport and competition put back on the agenda there&#8217;ll always be a slightly dirty taste with every champion. Schumacher was a money man&#8217;s dream fast and brilliant but with so maany controversial decisions going his way, it&#8217;s hard to feel that there wasn&#8217;t some behind the scenes FIA tinkerage  to get what they wanted, same with Villeneuve, Hill, hakkinen and Alonso. Too much politics not enough sport.</p>
<p>Also does anyone know why a Ferrari lawyer was allowed to be present to argue against McLaren at their appeal? Are other teams representatives are normally allowed to be present at the hearings? or were there extenuating circumstances allowing this for this particular appeal?</p>
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		<title>By: Fat Stig</title>
		<link>http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/09/23/the-decision/#comment-3495</link>
		<dc:creator>Fat Stig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a load of crap. If Massa wins the championship by less tha 6 points I will be so angry. I see no reason why McLaren shouldn&#039;t sue the FIA for gross miscompetence. I guess that Jean Todt and Stefano Domenicali threatened to put a video of Max on YouTube or something if McLaren won...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a load of crap. If Massa wins the championship by less tha 6 points I will be so angry. I see no reason why McLaren shouldn&#8217;t sue the FIA for gross miscompetence. I guess that Jean Todt and Stefano Domenicali threatened to put a video of Max on YouTube or something if McLaren won&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/09/23/the-decision/#comment-3492</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people miss the point. The penalty for driving into the path of an oncoming vehicle in the pit lane is a drive through, or if it was near the end of the race a 25s penalty. The stewards found Massa guilty just as they found Hamilton guilty. 

2 incidences that if found guilty have same minimum penalty of a drive through or if near the end of the race 25s added to the times. The only difference was one was a Ferrari the other wasn&#039;t. The rules were changed for Ferrari, creating an exception. So when people say the decision was unfair, they are pointing out that one team receives special privileges.

Take a leaf out of IR, when the checked flag drops that’s the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people miss the point. The penalty for driving into the path of an oncoming vehicle in the pit lane is a drive through, or if it was near the end of the race a 25s penalty. The stewards found Massa guilty just as they found Hamilton guilty. </p>
<p>2 incidences that if found guilty have same minimum penalty of a drive through or if near the end of the race 25s added to the times. The only difference was one was a Ferrari the other wasn&#8217;t. The rules were changed for Ferrari, creating an exception. So when people say the decision was unfair, they are pointing out that one team receives special privileges.</p>
<p>Take a leaf out of IR, when the checked flag drops that’s the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Sameer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sameer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080924103718.shtml

This is Disgusting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/080924103718.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://en.f1-live.com/f1/ en/headlines/news/detail/ 080924103718.shtml</a></p>
<p>This is Disgusting</p>
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		<title>By: DaViega</title>
		<link>http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/09/23/the-decision/#comment-3483</link>
		<dc:creator>DaViega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right desicion, There is no way Lewis could had overtaken Kimi IF he would had stayd on course.

Massa for champion, he has best possible &quot;wingman&quot; on whole series! (unless Kimi doesnt do a miracle, again)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right desicion, There is no way Lewis could had overtaken Kimi IF he would had stayd on course.</p>
<p>Massa for champion, he has best possible &#8220;wingman&#8221; on whole series! (unless Kimi doesnt do a miracle, again)</p>
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		<title>By: Landyman</title>
		<link>http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/09/23/the-decision/#comment-3479</link>
		<dc:creator>Landyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Lewis got some points taken away i dont have a problem with that.Health and safty gone mad

I do wonder whats going on with the sport when Ferrari,are aloud to run over there own pit crew and there driver gets to start the next race .

FlA wake up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Lewis got some points taken away i dont have a problem with that.Health and safty gone mad</p>
<p>I do wonder whats going on with the sport when Ferrari,are aloud to run over there own pit crew and there driver gets to start the next race .</p>
<p>FlA wake up</p>
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