Comments on: Japanese GP: penalty confusion http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/10/12/japanese-gp-penalty-confusion/ The greatest writers on the world of cars from the BBC's Top Gear Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:57:33 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Enartiato http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/10/12/japanese-gp-penalty-confusion/#comment-13726 Enartiato Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:33:35 +0000 http://bbctopgear.wordpress.com/?p=734#comment-13726 hm.. informative ) hm.. informative )

]]> By: Flam147 http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/10/12/japanese-gp-penalty-confusion/#comment-4599 Flam147 Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:22:16 +0000 http://bbctopgear.wordpress.com/?p=734#comment-4599 James Allen mentioned to martin brundel is massa allowed to cross the pit lane exit line (never ever raced an f1 car) , Martin has and never replied about half the field crossed the line in the opening lap , if their was anything in the rules he would have commented on this James Allen mentioned to martin brundel is massa allowed to cross the pit lane exit line (never ever raced an f1 car) , Martin has and never replied about half the field crossed the line in the opening lap , if their was anything in the rules he would have commented on this

]]> By: Flam147 http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/10/12/japanese-gp-penalty-confusion/#comment-4596 Flam147 Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:52:30 +0000 http://bbctopgear.wordpress.com/?p=734#comment-4596 Corno 85 Massa lost at least 25 seconds the pit lane has a speed limit Corno 85 Massa lost at least 25 seconds the pit lane has a speed limit

]]> By: Flam147 http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/10/12/japanese-gp-penalty-confusion/#comment-4594 Flam147 Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:37:03 +0000 http://bbctopgear.wordpress.com/?p=734#comment-4594 The White pit exit is only for exiting the pit lane to stop cars comming out directly onto the normal racing line and only applies to cars leaving the pit lane . Massa is allowed to use the whole width of the track The White pit exit is only for exiting the pit lane to stop cars comming out directly onto the normal racing line and only applies to cars leaving the pit lane . Massa is allowed to use the whole width of the track

]]> By: Axl http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/10/12/japanese-gp-penalty-confusion/#comment-4579 Axl Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:26:20 +0000 http://bbctopgear.wordpress.com/?p=734#comment-4579 BREAKING: See all the footage of the incidents on the following link showing all camera angles: http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/10/8530.html BREAKING: See all the footage of the incidents on the following link showing all camera angles:

http://www.formula1.com/n ews/headlines/2008/10/853 0.html

]]> By: Plankhurst http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/10/12/japanese-gp-penalty-confusion/#comment-4572 Plankhurst Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:21:00 +0000 http://bbctopgear.wordpress.com/?p=734#comment-4572 Shumacher spent years nerfing people off the track with no penalties. But he was driving a Ferrari. Hmmmm. Shumacher spent years nerfing people off the track with no penalties. But he was driving a Ferrari. Hmmmm.

]]> By: Go Lewis! http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/10/12/japanese-gp-penalty-confusion/#comment-4527 Go Lewis! Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:54:22 +0000 http://bbctopgear.wordpress.com/?p=734#comment-4527 I think F1 has had its day. Its not a sport sanymore as it is full of bureacrats who don't know a race from a knitting bee and are spoiling a competitive sport with petty rulings. It would be great if the teams went on their own, got the Canadian GP back and let the FIA die off. I think F1 has had its day. Its not a sport sanymore as it is full of bureacrats who don’t know a race from a knitting bee and are spoiling a competitive sport with petty rulings. It would be great if the teams went on their own, got the Canadian GP back and let the FIA die off.

]]> By: Axl http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/10/12/japanese-gp-penalty-confusion/#comment-4487 Axl Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:31:41 +0000 http://bbctopgear.wordpress.com/?p=734#comment-4487 Nod (comment 129) is completely correct. - The blue flags and light at the end of pit lane warns drivers that a car is coming out of the pits or racing on the track. It DOESN’T mean Bourdais has to yeild to Massa and only has to once a blue flag is shown after the end of pit lane (the horizontal white line). The first station after is on the exit of turn 1. - Bourdais does have the racing line as he is exiting the pit lane (priority to the rejoining car ALWAYS). Sorry F1Yankee... Nod (comment 129) is completely correct.

- The blue flags and light at the end of pit lane warns drivers that a car is coming out of the pits or racing on the track. It DOESN’T mean Bourdais has to yeild to Massa and only has to once a blue flag is shown after the end of pit lane (the horizontal white line). The first station after is on the exit of turn 1.
- Bourdais does have the racing line as he is exiting the pit lane (priority to the rejoining car ALWAYS).

Sorry F1Yankee…

]]> By: Axl http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/10/12/japanese-gp-penalty-confusion/#comment-4486 Axl Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:29:49 +0000 http://bbctopgear.wordpress.com/?p=734#comment-4486 Additions: - The incident is 11 seconds in - Massa was at least a foot or two outside the track confines Additions:

- The incident is 11 seconds in
- Massa was at least a foot or two outside the track confines

]]> By: Nod http://sundayafternoonclub.blogs.topgear.com/2008/10/12/japanese-gp-penalty-confusion/#comment-4485 Nod Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:28:58 +0000 http://bbctopgear.wordpress.com/?p=734#comment-4485 F1Yankee said... > the blue flag means gtfo of the way, end of story. Shame! There were no blue flags. There was a set of blue flashing lights beside the green for go light at the end of the pit straight. However, before the race Charlie W, the race director, told all the teams that "cars coming out of the pits have right of way" apparently because of the layout of the pit exit, so the stewards - once again - ignored Charlie as indeed did Massa who was either blind and didn't see Bourdais or, chose to drive into him as well - after all, it worked so well with Lewis H. F1Yankee said…
> the blue flag means gtfo of the way, end of story.

Shame! There were no blue flags. There was a set of blue flashing lights beside the green for go light at the end of the pit straight.

However, before the race Charlie W, the race director, told all the teams that “cars coming out of the pits have right of way” apparently because of the layout of the pit exit, so the stewards – once again – ignored Charlie as indeed did Massa who was either blind and didn’t see Bourdais or, chose to drive into him as well – after all, it worked so well with Lewis H.

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