I’m still not convinced that Sebastien Bourdais should have been given a 25-second penalty for being driven into by another car. Surely as he was racing for position the onus wasn’t on him to let Massa through. Has this ever happened before? (Be quick, FOM are taking these clips down very fast this morning!):
Honestly? Bouyrdais did nothing wrong there… it looked to me as though he even tried to ride the curb more just to get out of Massa’s way.
These two were battling for position, Bourdais was ahead of Massa on the track, Massa attempted to overtake, made the similar mistake as Hamilton and out braked himself, caught Bourdais, and put himself into a spin. Not Bourdais’ fault. Can someone who imposed a 25 second penalty on Bourdais for this incident, please step forward and explain it to the world as we are all confused.
FIA - Ferrari International Assistance
I think Massa had to wait just a little bit more and overtake Bourdais later. Don’t think that Bourdais deserved this penalty.
An absurd penalty!! FIA intentions are now very clear for this championship!
Seriously…. If people thought the FIA were a bit bias towards ferrari before… I think its safe to say this has put any doubt out of their minds.
If you read try to understand the reasoning behind the penalty it makes sense, but it was unfair I dont see why the couldnt just fine him 10,000 euros after the race, like they did massa a few races back. His 25 second penalty does seem harsh, but I dont think it makes much of an impact at least not regarding Bourdais.
However if Massa now goes on to win the Championship by 1 point then, thats a real spit in the face of McLaren.
Massa drove into Hamilton - Massa get the penalty, Massa drives into Bourdais - Bourdais gets the penalty, Consistency?? I would like to know where!!!
Going back to Spa, Kimi forced Hamilton off the track - no penalty given to Kimi. However, Hamilton slides off the track forcing Kimi off - penalty given to Hamilton.
It appears that the FIA are doing absolutely everything they can to help Ferrari win both championships.
Maybe all of us fans should boycott watching a race a two in protest.
I couldn’t belive it when they said that the penalty had been given to bourdais, the guy was right on the inside of the track. Massa took the corner too tight and drove in to him.
I honestly think that ferrari have got something on the FIA that means they just do as their told.
Ferrari - Hey we need more points ‘cos our drivers aren’t actually good enough to win in the best cars on the track.
FIA - Sure we can just take that ballsup your driver made and blame it on the the other guy. Its okay he’s french and no one will really care. I their anything else you would like o great masters, grovel, grovel, shoe lick, etc.
Outrageous
I am not surprised by what happen with Bourdais, Ferrari can’t win title without having help from the FIA but that F1 at the minute
The FIA are an group with no back bone and all their
stupid penaltys are ruining F1 as a sport
i think the FIA are defiantly helping the ferrari team. it’s pathetic. the FIA should be sacked!!
Even as a Ferrari fan this is a bit ridiculous. Bourdais had the position and Massa was coming out of the pits. Massa should have waited and passed Bourdais later. Massa probably could have shadowed Bourdais the entire lap and taken him on the straight with a good tow. This incident IMO was clearly Massa’s fault and shame on the FIA for penalizing Bourdais.
I’m verry sorry fo mistakes, but in my opinion, Baordais was showen a blue flag, when he was exiting the pit-lane.
blue flag so what??? he stays on the correct side of the track
what about Massa crossing the red part of the track between home straight and pit lane.
no flag/light is show to show if any driver is coming down the pit lane so what if Massa had hi a car getting up to racing speed???
Again, nothing done to Ferrari.
DTM/Indy-Cart/Le-Mans for me from now on.
This is just my wild speculation, but there could be some truth in it
At the moment theres all this talk about how F1 is boring, and next year they’re implementing new ideas such as KERS and the aero packs to make it more exciting. Do you think maybe that the FIA is intentionally being controversial just to make the sport a bit more interesting? Maybe they’re trying to close the gap between massa and hamilton so that we have an exciting end.
If Hamilton had his way at spa and Bourdais wasn’t penalized yesterday, there’d certainly be a bigger gap between Hamilton and Massa, and the world championship battle would be no where near as strong as it is now.
Its an ambitious concept, but to an open mind there could be some truth to it
As some one said in one of the forums, the new meaning for FIA is Ferrari International Assistance
^^
there’s a more fruity version going around too
f%^&ing idiots association
F1 = Ferrari First.
Just a sickening display of favoritism by the FIA. I’m sure it started with some arrogant Massa comment like “Why is Bourdais in my way? I’M racing for a championship in a Factory car and he’s just Toro Rosso. The Stewards need to teach him his place on the track.”
FIA stands for Ferrari Interests Above everyone else.Big big changes are essential at the FIA or the sport will fizzle out if they continue to favour Ferrari so blatantly…
Who is taking the clips down?
Are they afraid of the truth being shown.
Sport… my ass.
mclaren cry babies
wee wee
hammy no toy
wee wee
just makes me sick this moaning
move on people
edgars said…
mclaren cry babies
wee wee
hammy no toy
wee wee
just makes me sick this moaning
move on people
Where did that come from? This Blog has nothing to do with hamilton this is about the decision on the incident between Bourdais and Massa.
Post something when you actually have a comment that bears relevance, makes sense and doesn’t make you sound like you have just started nursery.
Try this link:-
http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=jdbBJnPJhEQ
it has been apparent for many years that Ferrari always ‘get the benefit of the doubt’. note “ferrarigate”.
how many rules have they streached to get to the top?
edgar, u freaking loser…here look at this link and then make up your mind! it clearly shows why the stewards are wrong…. http://www.planetf1.com/s tory/0,18954,3213_4306491 ,00.html
1. Someone said this won’t make much of a difference to Bourdais. It will - his drive is far from safe for next year and he rather badly needed the points he would have got for sixth. It’s also bad for Justin Wilson, who could lose his Indycar drive at Newman/Haas/Lanigan if Seabass is dumped from F1 and goes back to the US.
2. There was no blue flag - they were racing for position. There were blue lights at the end of the pitlane to warn Bourdais there was another car coming and he needed to be careful. So he was careful. Fat lot of good it did him.
I’m not a great believer in global conspiracies, but I do believe in corruption and stupidity - and those seem the only two possible explanations for penalising one driver for the other’s mistake.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but dont the rules of F1 state that if your coming out of pit lane you have priority? definetly so if you are claiming race position. Massa NOT quick enough to claim race position during Bourdias official pit stop, so therefore should have gave way,blue flags were waved but they were for MASSA not Bourdais, so in my eyes the FIA not only penalised the wrong man but failed to penalise the right man for more than one offense, and the penalty should have been disqualification, but hey we all know the Ferrari would not have allowed that to happen.
Fact is that the Former (Former) Ferrari Team boss (Marco Piccinini) is the FIA’s deputy president for sport. Tipped to be replaced by the Former Ferrari F1 boss Jean Todt…. Yeah no bias there!
People need to complain to the FIA.. as I’d imagine that they had a large input to this penalty seeing it was decided AFTER the race.
It’s making a Sport which has recently become closer and more entertaining A FARSE!!
The FIA has made so many decisions against Lewis Hamilton and Maclaren it does look like they have a special agenda. What is wrong with a decent English man winning instead of Johnnie Foreigner?
We do not watch to enjoy the latest antics of Bernie and Max we want racing.
I am completely disillusioned by the rulings in F1 this year. I have been a fan for many years and feel there is no point watching anymore. As if its not hard enough watching your team (Mclanren) throw the title away with silly mistakes under pressure but then having rulings imposed that make you loose all faith altogether.
I hope Lewis still wins to shut up that moaning cheating team they call Ferrari.
Someone above mentioned BTCC, now there’s proper fair racing at its best!!
This is quite frankly a ridculous penalty.
They were racing for position, and Bourdais reached the corner at the same time as Massa, with the inside line. This means Massa should have taken a wider line and attempted a pass at another point (see several of Kimi’s attempts on Kubizqa on how to do it without ending up backwards).
With regards to people harking out about blue-flags, Charlie Whiting explicity told all drivers and teams that cars emerging from the pit-lane had right of way - so again Massa should have yielded.
The blue flag is a WARNING for cars emerging from the pits that another vehicle is approaching (see FIA regulation 39.2).
Bad decision which undermines Whiting and the sport as a whole.
These sort of rulings, that always seem to favour Ferrari, show that the other manufacturers should have broken away from F1 a few years ago. Or ferrari sould bugger off into their own race league, for example A1GP which basically uses an old ferrari chassis and let everybody else get on with racing and not politics.
This is why F1 is losing fans and not due to enviromental concerns.
Ferrari is a totally spoiled brat that stamps its feet and gets its own way, while everyone else must put up and shut up.
IT WAS ALL MASSA’S FAULT!!! PLUS HE CROSSED THE RED AND WHITE LINES WHILST OVERTAKING WEBBER WHICH YOU CAN’T DO BECAUSE IT MIGHT CAUSE AN ACCIDENT
he had to wheels on track so NO
I just think the stewards and everybody else just want to make poor Bourdais cry-they point at him and shout: “haha.. look there,at the funny French speccy man..he is wanting to cry like a baby boo hoo haha”.Poor sod: he is a superb driver but seems to have no luck whatsoever!!
Renaissance, you obviously don’t know what you’re talking abt. Bourdais wasn’t shown a blue flag, he was ahead of Massa position-wise, and was ahead into the corner when Massa turned in on him. Is he supposed to stop and let Massa by because he’s in a Ferrari? There flashing blue lights at the end of the pit lane which symbolises an approaching car at speed, the hite line on the end of the pit lane is there to stop incidents.The blue lights son’t mean he should stop or let another car by. Its just ridiculous that Bourdais was rather penalised and not Massa when he was the one on the receiving end. absolute b*****cks. no consistency whatsover and they expect us to think they’re fair? cut the crap.
Massa should have had 3 drive through penalties throughout that race and got just one:
- Crash with Hamilton
- Dangerous driving (into Bourdais)
- Crossing the pit lane line and over the chevrons there
All of those are stupid and dangerous positions for an F1 car to be in. The last one could have caused a horrific accident with Massa at 200mph into the back of an accelerating car coming out of pit lane.
Points to clear up:
- Bourdais will keep that 25 second penalty regardless of appeal (same as Hamilton at Spa)
- FIA does stand for Ferrari International Assistance (nobody has told them yet…)
- The blue flags and light at the end of pit lane warns drivers that a car is coming out of the pits or racing on the track. It DOESN’T mean Bourdais has to yeild to Massa and only has to once a blue flag is shown after the end of pit lane (the horizontal white line). The first station after is on the exit of turn 1.
- Bourdais does have the racing line as he is exiting the pit lane (priority to the rejoining car ALWAYS).
- Bourdais DIDN’T deserve a penalty for that unless he braked late into turn 1. Clearly he didn’t.
- Post 26 by Scott is a brilliant link for people who doubt.
Enough with the bordais thing, I dont see how it affects him that much. He didnt lose out on much, If his place is at risk for torro-rosso im sure they will see it like the rest of us, that the FIA are a bunch of idiots.
From the only one telvised angle of the incident I very much dount that any of us could make a worthwhile and wholly accurate observation.
I really doubt it will affect his season or his place at torro rosso that much. So for Pete’s sake stop the whinig!
Bourdais was not overlapped to be shown the blue flag (neither one was waived), he was exiting pit lane, emerging directly and unobstructedly into his racing line, fighting for the position. He didn’t cross white line while doing it…poor guy did almost everything right…except getting in Massa’s way just when stewards had no choice but to penalize him for kicking Hamilton out and had to compensate somehow somewhere…it’s really getting rediculous
Mon Dieu!! What have i done to deserve this?? It is a conspiracy I tell you!! Oh,merd,my specs are steaming up again…
The FIA is nowhere near as biased as all of the comments on here.
Of course you get penalized for driving out into someone elses line coming from the pits. The blue light means you have to let the car pass and Bourdais could easily have made room. He was nowhere near race speed and was gonna lose his position no doubt. He needs to learn to accept that and not risk other peoples races by trying desperate measures.
Sure the FIA has made some shaky decisions in the past but this isnt one of them. Besides they’ve gone all ways including your beloved McLaren’s.
Come on! Its fine youre all rooting for McLaren and Hamilton, but the victim act every week is disgusting.
edgars, get back under your rock.
Hard to believe that 90% of ferari fans are blind and/or retarded, but judging from these posts they most certainly are.
i was completely shocked and outraged to find that Bourdais had been given that penalty. it was clearly massa’s fault. watch the link that Anon posted (french is as good as anything) and you can see that massa just drives into bourdais - the idiot.
That incident happened with something like thirteen laps to go and they waited until the race was over to investigate it. I’m certain they were waiting for the outcome of the race before decided proper punishment. The FIA is a governing body that is governing against racing. It going to get to the point were two drivers can’t even race each other any more. That,to me, look like a racing incident. They bumped, no harm no foul. Not according to the FIA. I’m suprised they didn,t penalize Kubica for out-driving Kimi in the last few laps. It’s ridiculous.
Damn those people @ Formula One Management! All Video’s on youtube have been removed due to copyright infringement. They think they are losing money or something? Really, they would be gathering a larger following if they had them posted for free. Wish I could see it somewhere…
Why didn’t Kimi get any penelty i Monaco?
FIA - Ferrari International Assistance
“The car exiting the pitlane has right of way.”
This is the advice given to the drivers before the race by…?
CHARLIE WHITING - RACE DIRECTOR !!!
being the sad person that i am, i was reading through the rules on the Formula One website, http://www.formula1.com
http://www.formula1.com/i nside_f1/rules_and_regula tions/sporting_regulation s/6835/
opening the link above, you will find that bourdais should NOT have had the penalty. this is because it clearly states that not only is the 10 second penalty the more severe, but that a 25 second penalty is awarded during the final 5 laps of the race.
so why did he get 25 seconds off is time?
edgars, do you want a job at the FIA?
F1Yankee turned it down.
haha Ferrari international assistance= FIA
I have been suprised if they put some helicopters out to floodlight the ferraris in singapore just to make sure they won
absolutly rediculos!
sorry i meant i wouldnt have been suprised
Comment number 42…
which part of the ferrari team do you work for?
its obvios that bordais was entitled to keep that like even if he did get overtaken further on around the track.
why are the FIA putting the new aero rules in force in 2009 when they are obviously against overtaking
Massa was in the wrong, he blatantly didnt leave enough space for Bourdais, but it has made the prospect of the China GP next sunday seem so much more exciting, lewis should forget about the Japanese GP as its results have been rendered invalid to any fan of F1 due to the actions of the stewards.
I’ve lost total faith in the people making these decisions. What we should have is experienced ex F1 drivers making decisions who understand the sport and know what it is like to drive these cars. There’s no consistency and in some cases no relationship between the incident and the resultant penalty.
I just hope the season is decided on the track without controversy. No bitter taste in the mouth please.
fia are going downhill a pathetic decision
I was wondering, Bourdais and Massa were fighting for position or not?
As stated elsewhere the FIA’s Racing Director Charlie Whiting, briefed the drivers that cars leaving the pit lane had priority. The pit lane being that close to the apex, from the safety point of view it made sense. After the Bourdais incident, again the FIA Race Director reinforced his view with the track stewards, they chose to ignore him.
It would appear that the FIA’s representative at all races is being undermined by local track officials.
Has anyone asked Max Mosley if he still thinks we are all stupid to think there is FIA bias?
Apostolos 7:08 –
Bordais was at that time of the incident was far ahead of Massa, niether driver was racing one another. Bordais was leaving the pits after his fuel stop, and Mass quite a few places back was about to have his pit stop next time around.
Meaning Mass was around 40secs behind and not racing him. I can’t remember the actual positions Bordais was running around 4th and Massa around 12th
Bourdais can’t have been shown a blue flag!!!. He was racing for position with Massa.
Or have the Ferrari fans forgotten that their cars are so crap when it’s cold that Toro Rosso’s can quite happily keep up with them now?
their is one simple way to sort this out.. BAN PEOPLE WHO HAVE WORKED FOR FARARRI FROM THE FIA!
Shameful decision. Just a pity that the other non Ferrari related teams didn’t carry out their threat and break away from the FIA to form their own championship.
In my opinion it is all about money. Ferrari bring a large amount of money into F1 and alot of fans. The FIA are well aware of what would happen if they pulled out of F1.
Anybody who follows F1 quite closely knows that very few scandals involving Ferrari every get any publicity.
f1 is so frustraiting by stupid and ridiclus decisions why cant these people just get it wright its fairly simple
fia(ferrari international assistance) are so biased
f1’s is crap now thanks ferrari
I am a Ferrari fan, but it does seem the FIA are manipulating the championship, Bourdais did nothing wrong and massa paid his owm penalty with the self induced spin, come Kubica thats what i say,
this is gay.
at least i can watch motogp without fear of stewards deciding results by putting drivers names in a hat to see who gets the penalty!!!!!!
fia shouldnt employ people who were with an current f1 team
an absurd decision alright but there is no such thing as bad publicity.This isnt even an f1 site!!.Anyone who says there going to boycot f1 because of this is talking rubbish.A down to the wire finale will always outway a handful of bad decisions.Bernie,amongst others,knows this.I predict an even higher tv audience for next sunday.And,apparently,the res even a better show coming next year as well. WE’RE ALL SLAVES.
I’m not, but my wife is called Slavica.
this “fia against mclaren” is getting a bit out of hand. i knw people are angry and i knw that this decision was wrong so i dnt see why people are bringing mclaren into this. toro rosso should appeal but they probably wont coz ferrari give them theyre engines so its sorta is a corrupted issue
FIA get ur act sorted come on!! and give us a good clean honest RACE fFS!
Whatever happened to the concept of a racing incident. It’s no-ones fault. Massa spun because of his error and Bourdais lost an insignificant amount of time so why penalise either of them? It’s hard on Bourdais who drove a great race. Its just one of those bad decisions that crop up from time to time.
Also can people stop using the Ferrari International Assistance joke, its old and untrue.
Comment 63 - Ferrari’s crap in the cold? Then why was Massa’s fastest lap half a second faster than Raikkonens and 6 tenths quicker than anyone elses?
Bourdais Made a Cardinal Sin - He Wasn’t driving a Red Ferrari!!
So, Of course he will be blamed & get penalised
F1 = Ferrari Favouritism
As an avid fan of F1 for 30 Years - Im Disgusted with the FIA who are making a mockery of F1 with their Favouritism towards Ferrari time and time again - Its a Joke
i like f1 but t sgone to hiipish green stripes on the tyres wat on earth anyways bck to the situaroin it is getting blatenly ovois of th ebias against maclaren and that they favour ferrari lewis hamilton has been fia(ed) f***ed in the ass
Soon people will turn on the TV on a Sunday afternoon just to see what ridiculous and random descisions will be made by the Stewards !!!
Do you need to ask why? Ferrari need a helping hand. FIA YOUR A JOKE!
I was sceptical of the Ferrari International Assistanse theory even though I am an avid Hamilton supporter. But when I found myself thinking this before reading or hearing about it elsewhere, I realise that this is one of the few true conspiracy theories! I agree Hamilton’s making some mistakes but he was being punished far too much. But now the FIA have targeted other, completely innocent drivers in their quest for Ferrari victory. Only one question remains - how much money did they need to corrupt the FIA? (and how much could it have been better used to improve the Ferrari?). I’m not anti-ferrari, I supported schumacher, but this is injustice.
i think that bourdais is actually quiet a good driver and should of deserved dis penalty, i say that bmw dump heidfeild n get bourdais, i dont now if enywun c him in champcar but he was shit hot. i always loved f1 but the fia have ruined it with al the penaltys. f1 went down hill when schumacher went.
F1 doesn’t know where its going!! I mean spreading an environmental message ON AN F1 CAR!! ffs, put a cap on the amount a team can spend on the two cars each year, say £20 million?! Start making consistent decisions, employ someone alongside Whiting who, together can make the penalty decisions, Whiting is a good guy in the whole FIA nonsense and should be given the responsibility, after all he seems to be the only one who can do his job!!
HA! HA! HA! MORE STUPID DECISIONS BY FIA PEOPLE! STILL MORE COMEDY OF ERRORS TO COME I TELL YOU!!! LET’ NOT CALL F1 AS “F1 CIRCUS” BUT AS “F1 COMEDY”!!!
SO ALL YOU PEOPLE OUT THERE, DON’T TAKE THIS F1 THING TOO SERIOUSLY!!! THIS IS JUST A COMEDIC ACT TO ENTERTAIN EVERYONE!!! KEEP ON WATCHING IT!!! COMEDIES ARE TO MAKE PEOPLE LAUGH!!! AND LAUGHTER IS THE BEST MEDICINE!!! GOOD FOR THE HEART!!! HA HA HA HE HE HE HO HO HO!!!!!!!!!
more sour grapes from limeyland… you people are bitter…
I think that Massa is not a very observant driver. He hit Hamilton, he hit Bourdais and he has almost hit Sutil TWICE while exiting the Ferrari pit.
C’mon Massa open your eyes!
Competition? Racing? Risk? Nope, sorry, not allowed in F1 anymore. Championship decided by commitee….maybe a slightly dodgy one at that.
Yeah, thats pretty true, maybe Bourdais isn’t the only F1 driver who needs glasses. Either that or the ferrais mirrors make everything appear farther away than it really is.
Not to add to the conspiritorial stuff, but the only penalty I can think of that has been imposed on Ferrai IN RACE THIS YEAR, was in Singapore, after an incident that basically stuck him in last anyway. Has there been any more?
To ammend that, that stuck MASSA in last palce.
FIA is nuts
you just said it yourself, Ferrari stretch the rules. break them… thats a different matter.
Well deserved for Massa, well deserved for Hamilton, well deserved for Bourdais period. Get over it already. Whiners…..
ahuh, then what is Hamilton with his driving into Kimi at a red light?
@ Jamie.
Massa had the onus for fighting his position with Lewis too didn’t he? Why did he get penalized then? “Oh, Lewis was in front of Massa when he got touched.” So what, Massa was in front of Bourdais too when he got touched, so that means Massa’s penalty wasn’t deserved because it’s part of the competition? =\ Same situation, same punishment, well deserved. Massa got hasty, Bourdais got too hasty, Hamilton went over hasty, the end, the hasty trio got the same punishmnt and that’s it. Who raced for one lil point until the last lap? Massa did. He showed some great driving, 2 points well deserved. Thumbs up. Good race.
@ Marcos
A. The problem here is the fact that the drivers had been briefed that in a equal situation with one car leaving from the pits, the car that gets priority into turn 1 is the car leaving the pits. If you were in Bourdais’ situation, what would you have done?
B. Bourdais had a full fuel load and comparitively cold tires, Massa had alost no fuel and tires that were well up to temperature. He could have easily overtaken Bourdais further down the track without running the risk of the crash.
C. As previously stated, Massa had no fuel and was due for a stop, he was not racing Bourdais for position.
D. Massa didn’t need to do much to get that point, the Ferrai has proved itself to be much faster (especially in the straight and doubly so in the dry) than the Red Bull of Webber. Sutil (no disrespect to him) could have taken him in that car, stop blowing Massa’s trumpet.
I’m not a Ferrai supporter, I’m not a Maclaren supporter, Im a supporter of the sport. BOTH Hamilton and Massa have screwed up lately (E.G. Hamilton in Canada seeming to be colour blind and Massa in Britan seemingly unable to keep his car from spinning). The call was bad, as per Charlie Whitings prerace briefing, the penalty was bad, as per F1’s own rules proudly displayed on thier own website (Kudo’s to amanda for that one). Its bringing the sport into disrepute
Its fact, its ireffutable.
“ahuh, then what is Hamilton with his driving into Kimi at a red light?”
At least that was only one race. I really admire Massa as a driver but recently (the last four races) he has had collisions, or near collisions with people, caused by himself.
to put it very simply, the FIA decided to “investigate incident between car 2 and Bourdais after the race”, was so they could see where Bourdais and Massa will end up in the race result to see if they need to do anything to help Massa get more points~!
if Bourdais finished behind Massa, or if Massa was 10th or worse (where punishing Bourdais wouldn’t help anyway), I wonder if they still think the penalty should be given to Bourdais…
i’m 1st a supporter of the sport and then ferrari.rules make bourdais right, but the problem is elswhere, massa is a very fast driver when not in trafic , but in trafic well … he leaves me wondering( to put it mildly )to sum it up you could say he shoud be on asfalt alone, like hill climbs, rallys and other such individual activities rather than group activities as track racing.
i guess that makes him a good driver but a not too good racer ! ?
It’s the ‘anti-choco conspiracy theory’!!!! The FIA are doing all they can to hinder Hamilton/Mclaren’s chance for the crown! It’s there for all to see - plain and simple!!!
you silly bunch of loosers
FIA whatever
you stop moaning the lot of you
you are becoming just like your love hamilton
enough with one like that already
ok
loosers
Tuesday today. Time for a decduction of 2 driver and team points for McLaren/LH from the FIA.
massa you rock
look.. no ferrari means no f1 so put up or shut and shut up!
Edgars wrote:
“mclaren cry babies
wee wee
hammy no toy
wee wee
just makes me sick this moaning
move on people”
This blog has nothing to do with Mclaren or Hamilton. Frankly the majority of us are sick of you constantly using Top Gear’s brilliant F1 blogs as a medium to attack, upset and anger true fans of the sport. For this reason you’ve been reported. We acknowledge that you haven’t got the intelligence to post anything constructive or even give a valid opinion, but that’s no excuse for hateful comments.
Oh, and take a look at the link on comment 26 before you mouth off again. Bourdais was right on the edge of the track but Massa insisted on shoulderbarging him. As Gerhard Berger put it - ‘What was he supposed to do? Roll out the red carpet?’
Shut up you stupid moaning McClaren fans, Hamilton should not have raced Kimi for the first corner end of it…….then we wouldn’t even be here discussing this but celebrating Louis as the new champion possibly!! So shut it alright & live with the fact he aint up to it yet…..Ferrari all the way!!
ash. you are a geek!!
Look who is crying now
Again it would appear that there are lots of mature people out there posting comments! All the Massa/Bourdais accident shows is that it is about time to get some consistency in the stewards at Grand Prix. We need a group of five people who make the rules and hand out punishments at every race, as the Massa and Hamilton penalties were correct, but the Bourdais one certainly wasn’t.
Im sorry, but what do you mean by mclaren boohoo edgars?! The only people/team throwing their toys out of their pram is Ferrari. Why else would they be given points left right and centre when they dont deserve them. They have the best, fastest cars on the grid, but the stupidist cry babies driving them. If someone gets anywhere near them they bitch and cry and get on the radio directly to the Ferrari help line with the FIA and ask for them to be forcably removed from their way. Its ridiculous how anybody can see that the penalty on Hamilton at the start and on Bourdais later on is fair. Hamiltons start was no different to any other thousands of starts in Formula 1 history and Bourdais was fighting Massa for position, end of! If we look back on the whole season and impose retrospective penalties, Fisi may now be in a position to win the title.
The FIA needs a big change, Get rid of Max Von Mosely first and work down to the simpleton stewards.
Come on Lewis, win the championship for all our sanities.
really. Take a look back through this year and last year how many times hamilton was let off. Were shall i start, monza perhaps fighting with webber or shall we talk about how he nearly took out his own team mate. What if kov did not move to the right, hamilton would have hit him or shall we talk about china were he was driving the car behind the saftey car like he had ants in his pants and caused and accident. Come on massa. Your a crap driver so if you win it what does that say about hamilton. massa to win
Tuesday today, which means the FIA are to dedcut 2 points from Hamilton nad Mclaren
FIA need replacing, there going to kill the sport if we dont replace them now. They are too bia’s and Ferrari be disqualified for unfair play in japan massa caused two accidents and got away almost scott free.
i think that ferrari’s felpie massa should have be disqualified during that race he spun hamilton off and i think cost him 10 points i am surprised that hamilton did not punch massa in the face i really do hope hamilton wins the world championship and mclaren can win the construtors championship
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isn’t it interesting those that are telling us to shut up HAS NO REPLY what-so-ever to the valid evidence we pointed out.
and the main point is how often FIA had took actions in Ferrari’s favour, surely those who doesn’t understand the facts probably don’t have the capacity to consume the full list of facts if someone can be bothered posting.
and to some certain people who seems to cheering for massa to win the title, well, there are no “let-off” if it isn’t against the rules in the first place. what happened in Fuji was they managed to create some blatant excuse to punish something that was never punished before. Get your facts right before you call us losers.
FIA are clearly in favour of Ferrari. even einstein wudnt understand why bourdais was given a penalty. massa clearly came in 2 deep and sumhow he got rewarded for a mistake that he made…