Bunking Brigade

How important is it that Ferrari stay in Formula 1? You’ll have seen in the papers that the Scuderia are talking a lot about leaving if the FIA’s proposed rules don’t change for 2010.

To keep pushing the point (‘No really, we’re leaving! We keep talking about it so it must be true…’) Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo today said that they’ve had lots of comments of support via their website.

He stated that if Ferrari were forced to leave F1, they’d go and race in other competitions.

“Racing is part of Ferrari’s DNA and this is something that will never change,” he said, likely thumping a Prancing Horse-embossed desk with an expensively manicured hand.

For my part, I still don’t believe they will leave, or are even seriously considering it.

They’re just making the point that the FIA needs them in F1, along with Renault and most of the other teams who have kicked up a fuss about the 2010 two-tier rules.

Apart from McLaren, who are staying strangely quiet.

There’s an interesting piece on Pitpass, where they wonder aloud if the FIA have something over Martin Whitmarsh’s team that’s keeping McLaren schtum on this.

The team were, after all, let off rather lightly over the lie-gate PR disaster.

Back to Ferrari, though: hypothetically, if they do leave F1, which race series would you want them to go to?

Le Mans is an obvious one as they’ve done it before, but what else? GP2? Touring cars? NASCAR?

Kimi would seem well suited to the latter at least, where he could eat as much ice cream as he wanted.

But as long as they keeping making ace roadcars, we’ll be happy.

Won’t we?

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i think they should enter all lemans, nascar, gp2 at the same time, i mean budget for one F1 season would cover budgets for all named abowe…
and it would mean more stuff becoming interesting…

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I don’t think Fezza will even get as far as they did in the ’80’s when they built an Indycar. Although Ferrari to Le Mans for a year or two would be good (for Le Mans, not F1 obviously.)

But with Max, Bernie and FOTA meeting on Friday, they’ll sort something out.

I’m assuming Mclaren are staying quiet as they really do have nothing without F1. Oh, and they keep getting in trouble!

Good suggestion about Kimi in NASCAR, not just for the ice cream, but he’d be really good at it!

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they have to stay, f1 isn’t f1 without Ferrari, they should reduce the cost over time rather than doing it all in one big hit. that way its more manageable and set it to reach the proposed target by a certain year, however by then the recession will be over and teams will want to spend big again. A 2 tier championship would be a farce in my opinion so all the teams and cars need to be on the same regulations.

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I agree with what Danny said. I am fed up of the scrabbling around trying to find ‘solutions’ to ‘fix’ F1. It’s great that they got rid of driver aids finally. I think KERS is a rubbish idea if they are trying to create a level(ish) playing field.
Whatever happens, Ferrari can’t leave.

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I think Mclaren were quietly told to keep quiet on next year’s rules or their punishment would be a lot harsher. Max and Bernie are dictators who listen to no one and they will not get their way this time because FOTA seem to be quite serious about leaving. If the current lot of Renault Toyota and Ferrari do leave we will have USGP, perhaps Lola, Prodrive and Mercedes powered Force India and Mclaren. Maybe that’s why Mclaren are keeping so quiet, Lewis will win every race and Heikki might even finish one! Adrian Sutil will be on pole more than he is in last place now! It really will be a farce and it’s such a shame because the racing and coverage is so good this year.

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If i cant play by my rules i taking my ball home, Well take , No one team, car, person is bigger than the whole, Let them go i’m sure Ashton , Lotus, and others would like to play and with the cap system it will be better all round car and driver not how much cash you can pump into a team to make it win , just my 2p worth

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if Ferrari left F1 i don’t think the competition would be the same. who’s the team everyone wants to beat, who’s the team pushing technology in big ways, who’s the team who, me included, everyone loves, what is F1 without Ferrari?
i do think i will follow them, not Formula One. the fans will leave and the sport will fold without them. apart from that, well done FIA/bernie ecclestone/who ever else is for the small budget cap. 2011 season, they will all be racing Hyundai i30’s re-badged as Ferrari, BMW.. ect. with absolutely no modifications. or they can have a G-wiz maybe

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actually, on a better note, anyone for a Group B-esque Formula One?

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I’ll probably get shouted down for this but I think you’ve got it the wrong way round Jamie. I think Ferrari are serious about leaving. I agree with you in that they know the Ferrari name draws more money and interest into F1 than any other, and they also know the standing of F1 as the premier open wheeled championship would be under threat if not destroyed if they and others left. I don’t necessarily agree with using threats as a tactic but something needs to be done to make the FIA realise they can’t control the teams in this way. A compromise will be found and I believe Ferrari will be on the grid next year.

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Never liked Ferrari, couldn’t care less. Sorry, but that’s how I see it. So long as McLaren stays in it, i’m happy.

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Bernie has contracts with TV and tracks. I would be hell lot of effort to create brakeway series.
Maybe they will leave together with redbull and others, but somehow I can’t see that.
Bit of overblown bullsh…

McLaren are quiet but Norbert Haug (hope spelled it right) from mercedes does the talking. In the end they could leave too. Martin must have been told to keep it quiet or stewards will find some ways to punish them during season.

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What if they leave? If the budget cap will be set at 30m euros and IF ferrari leaves f1, I really hope that Alfa Romeo could enter the f1 championship once again.

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F1 is about drivers, not about big car companies… so… who wants to leave.. bye bye.

PS. You guys should enter F1 with 3 cylinder Hyundai Accident and the Stig, so when you win, you’ll prove my point

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So what if Ferrari leaves F1? They have been using a system of ‘out-spend’ over ‘out-innovate’ for years. I think they have their collective ‘panties in a wad’ over Brawn’s success. Ferrari may be using Max and Bernie’s new rules (intended to be a deterrent to the “out-spend them” philosophy and increase competition) as an excuse. Where would Ferrari go? NASCAR is the wrong demographic for them. ALMS or its Euro version? They’ve already had success in GT2, and I don’t see Ferrari getting into either LMP category or vying for a GT1 car. Ferrari should stay put in F1 and put out better cars (a line I thought I’d never say).

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I understand Ferrari is F1 to alot of people [not me] but before the Shumacher revival they were mostly just there for entertainment and drama.

Plus it seems alot of people have forgotten unless you have a diesel car YOU WILL NOT WIN LE MANS. I dont see Ferrari making an oil burner anytime soon.

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le mans would be good but i reckon they’d step up their GT operations

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I’d quite like to see the teams leave F1 and start up an unlimited sports car championship instead.

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If everybody’s really honest the FIA started to screw F1 up years ago! Shame really cos politics have no part in racing. Yes i know there’s millions of pounds spent but freeze it as it is for a couple more years and do the fighting on the track and in the cars cos at the end of the day thats all the paying public want! Oh one more thing God was a Ferrari fan too!

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what about a ferrari wrc car? can you imagine a 430 barriling down a dirt track in a welsh forrest?
hell with the s2000 formula for next year ferrari could homaglate a 2l 270bhp road car for the masses!!!

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Ferrari enterimg Le Mans? Highly doubtful. for as start the most modern LMP1 cars – like the Audi R15 TDI – are diesel, so to compete, Ferrari would have to enter in a diesel, unlikely. Never in Ferrari’s history have they made a diesel so they probably won’t race one.

There isn’t really much choice apart from GT1’s. Maybe they should make their new F430 replacement a GT1 racer first and if they win, it’ll be an enourmous success. You reading this Ferrari? Doubtful, but if you are, take it seriously.

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f1 with out ferrari would be like i life without cars!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Forget the ‘s’ on ‘as’ on the first line, then it makes sense. ;D

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Ferrari=F1, Ferrari wouldn’t exist without F1, so why change it now? If they’re complaining about being behind the ‘budget cap cars’ I have a suggestion to them: ‘Be one of those ‘budget cap cars’

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Would this be similar to if Man Utd decided to leave the Premiership and go play in Europe? Of course theirs fans would follow them wherever they went, but the Premiership would survive. New teams would become the ‘love-to-hate’ team, new teams would enter in their place and in a few years, people will have forgotten about why there was such a fuss.

I reckon that if Ferrari leave, companies like Porsche and Audi should step up and enter the fray.

People expect F1 to be at the pinnacle of racing. Introducing a budget cap may help smaller teams, but in my opinion, if you can’t stand the heat…

I second Showie’s comment on a ‘Group B’ F1. It wouldn’t be a two tier event, it would just be a ‘build a car that will get round this track as quick as physically possible’. That means ludicrous machines that may/may not look like the car next to them. That would truly push companies to innovate, and you don’t necessarily need to spend huge to achieve that.

I would be a shame to lose Ferrari, but I think F1 is in a strong enough position to stand by itself.

/end rant :-)

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I think Ferrari leaving would be a disaster and I’m a McMerc guy! Maybe they’re grumpy cos this season’ been a bit pants but I hope it gets settled and everybody stays and some new teams join for good measure…

Like Ferrari say though it’s not up to Mosley how they spend their money. Very good point!

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