Monaco tunnel

I just walked home from a party, and couldn’t resist taking the way back through the tunnel…

It’s a lot longer than it appears on the TV, but as you go through it you can’t help but think about all the famous moments through-out the years that have occurred in it, and just after it.

It was a pretty amazing experience.

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can 2009 cars go upside down in this tunnel?

*get rid of mosely for budget caps*

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Which party??… Why don’t you post any pictures of that??… It would be much more interesting than this tunnel post (show us some Monaco Ladies)…

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@ J.

Motor journalists at a party with women?
Not happening. :P

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@ferrarifan599, no f1 car can travel upside down, even at top speed, partly because there wont be enough downforce (all though there is a lot of it!), but mainly because an engine in a car cant work upside down! the only reason why f1 teams would have said that their car works upside down in the past is because they know you cant prove them right or wrong as its not possible even if they did have enough downforce, which they don’t, never had, and never will.

@catersam, this is a party in monaco! there would be girls, and probably more than a few lol! but if you were any where else in the world you would have a good point lol!
:) and i’ve been through that tunnel in a mclaren slr!!!! it wasn’t my car though! :)

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anyone else think ibbs is a nob?

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Yes

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Ooh, get you with your Monaco party!

Seriously, though, it must have been wonderfully evocative to walk through the tunnel.

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ahh god how i love monaco!

walking through that tunnell is just awe inspiring.. you can actually see all the paint of F1 cars tattooed into the walls! bloody amazing place.

think im gonna try and go again next summer…

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@Gully
So do I!

And there IS enough downforce (or at least was on the 2008 models)

*There is an upside to being insomniac, just haven’t found it yet*

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ibbs, assuming you were being pithy by ignoring FF599’s facetiousness, I’m surprised to hear that an F1 engine can’t work upside-down. Not that I’m suggesting they should – Kubica will tell you about that. I would have thought that everything going on in there would be happening too fast to rely on anything as rudimentary as gravity.

Discuss…

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A ‘standard’ internal combustion engine will have problems upside down – not least that the fuel in the tank will not fall into the (now) inverted fuel pipe. Also the oil will fall to the top of the engine. However it is possible to run an engine upside down with modifications or by design, and in fact that has been done even back as far as the 1950s. Ibbs, I’m afraid you do not know what you are talking about.

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As there has been radial engines (with up to twelve cylinders around a single-neck crankshaft)since the earliest days of aeronautics, there’s hope to a V-# engine working upside down.

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if we put an aircraft engine in a f1 car, surely it will work up’side’down.

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Put the engine in upside down to start with, and then when the cars upside down it’ll be the right way up !

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P.s. I walked the track a few years back – the hairpin coming onto the start finish line is sooo tight. I wouldn’t want to do it in a road car..

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ibbs is an ass
1.Dont lie
2.We all watch top gear,especially the one with the Gumpert Apollo,where Clarkson says the exact same thing about F1 teams who cant prove their theory
3.Its metaphorical,they say cars will travel upside down as the aerodynamic grip works both ways as opposed to mechanical grip at those speeds.
4.Engines do work upside down,the problem is the fuel tank,but that can be riggered also.Gravitational force doesnt act on an area where the force of the object does not experience a weight under external force i.e heat pressure and temperature.It depends on the design of the engine.

Do you design F1 engines ibbs?
No,didnt think so.

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i agree witth coment 16 ibbs is an *** i did not swear because it whould break the code of conduct

and you will belive i have been throgh the monico tunle in my go kart

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o and by the why i reported coment 16 but i still agree with it

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Is there going to be a new chicane in monaco?

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About this up-side-down F1 car thing: The force produced by a crankshaft spinning at 18 000 rpm will be greater than 9.81 Newtons (pull of Earth’s gravity), therefore the engine will work as long as fuel is supplied. When the fuel is in the cylinder, it is vapourised anyway so gravity won’t have a major effect on it. As has already been said, it’s the supply that’s the problem. F1 cars could, theoretically, run up-side-down on the ceiling of the tunnel as long as the downforce produced is greater than the weight of the car. So, I’m afraid ibbs is completely wrong because bother the engine and the car could run up-side-down.

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*both not bother
P.S. How heavy is an F1 car?

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ibbs, I did an a-level coursework project on physics involved in F1. In principle, using a basic model, an F1 car does provide enough downforce to not only travel upside down, but travel at 186 mph upside down and still corner more tightly than a ferrari 360 could at the same speed and the correct way up.

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a engne will work up side down you just got to sort ot the oil and how you get it to work when it is up side down

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