The FIA has announced the 2010 F1 entry list… and McLaren, Brawn and Prodrive aren’t on it. Quite. Well, they are. Sort of. But not exactly.
Here’s how it works. Of the current teams, only Ferrari, Red Bull, Toro Rosso, Willians and Force India have been granted entries, with new teams Campos, Manor and Team US F1 also included.
There’s no place yet for Brawn, McLaren, Renault, BMW and Toyota, who have all be told to lift the conditions on their entry by Friday June 19 or risk being left off the grid next year.
If they refuse to submit unconditional entries within a week – or at least come to an agreement with the FIA over next year’s regulations – that could make space for one of the other seven ‘new’ teams, which include Team Lotus, March, Lola… and Prodrive, the team run by Dave Richard which could become Aston Martin by 2011.
At this stage, that looks unlikely – it would seem that there’s plenty more negotiations to go on between FOTA and the FIA before the 2010 regulations are set in stone – and the FIA is not keen to have a grid of more than 26 cars.
So, assuming we’re limited to 13 teams, what’s the ideal outcome here, Sunday Afternoonerers? Of the teams yet to be granted an entry, would you ditch any of them to make way for Prodrive? Or March?
I don’t think you could have F1 without McLaren, and Brawn have picked up loads of fans since they started out too. It’s a largely British sport and I’d imagine the majority of Brits want to see the British drivers in British teams…
Maybe that’s just me, but we can show the world how it’s done! We can’t be beaten by USF1 anyway!
Gladly see the back of BMW/Toyota for Prodrive/Aston Martin- also thought Ferrari were in the group that are conditional- SkyNews seems to think if Moseley doesn’t change his regulations Ferrari won’t compete next year
the best solution would be to leave all the 10 current teams, ditch those Campos and Manor, and instead enter Prodrive/Aston Martin and Lola or Lotus.
With usf1 there will be a bigger chance that F1 will return to USA or Canada (bring back Canadian GP)
Let ferrari go , wont miss them .They think they are bigger than the sport , show them the door and give spot to new team , plenty out there that would be honoured to compete in F1
bye bye ferrari ..dont let the door bang u in the ass on the way out!
Renault is based in the UK, right? Ditch them for Prodrive. At least it’s a team the world has actually heard of!
Funny, not what it says on the F1 website, 13 teams listed (orignal 10 with campos, march and USF1) but with 5 teams listed with an asterix that will, as you reported, need to agree unconditionally to the 2010 rules (like williams, force india have).
The real problem is actually Ferrari and Red Bull who have basically been added to the list as “unconditional” because of their old contract from 2005 (i think). So there could be a rucus over that bit. But saying no Brawn and no McLaren is just poor reporting lads!
http://www.formula1.com/n ews/headlines/2009/6/9487 .html
Be aware that both Red Bull Racing and Ferrari responded to the FIA insisting that they have ‘conditional’ entries and will not compete unconditionally in the series alongside the new teams.
How about having two divisions if we’ve got so many teams?
DIVISION ONE
Ferrari
McLaren Mercedes
Brawn GP
Red Bull
Toro Rosso
Renault
BMW Sauber
Toyota
Williams
DIVISION TWO
Force India
Prodrive/Aston Martin
USF1
Lola
Campos Meta
Lotus
Superfund
Brabham
Penske/Wirth
With 2 getting relegated and promoted each season.
Have them run either on alternate weekends, or have Div 2 in the mornings, sort of like BTCC Support races.
If they were on alternate weekends, have the Div 2 ones really cheap to get younger audiences seeing F1 in the flesh without paying loads.
Maybe the division one would but a lot richer than division two, but if they’re both budget capped (eg £65m for Div 1, £35m for Div 2) then the TV money etc. would be split like that.
*Maybe division one would be a lot richer
If I had to choose, then Lotus, of course. I’ve always been a Chapman fan and I was sad when it left. Hey, Mika drove a Lotus…as cool as it gets.
Now, it’s very clear for me, if Ferrari already signed it’s because they already agreed to a higher budget cap. So McL will follow, but they need to play hardball, because FIA was hard on them the last few years. Power game.
Brawn will stay because… I don’t know, I just wish it stays.
The other new teams, I don’t care, as long as the best drivers are all in.
How old is Mika?
I can’t understand why Prodrive would not be granted a place. Weird.
Puma, the impression I get is that someone has just bought the ‘Team Lotus’ name, so it won’t actually be a ‘factory’ team. Or at least I think thats what I’ve heard.
Really surprised Prodrive didn’t get a place, they would have been a shoe-in I thought. Ah well, theres always next year when one of the other new teams bottles it…
Dave Richards and prodrive had their chance 2 years ago so its right to give somebody else a chance, who just might bother their arses and actually build a car.
Here’s hoping everyone sees sense and McLaren, Brawn, etc. get to the grid. If they don’t there will be no Ferrari either and I don’t relish the thought of watching USf1 and Campos( wasn’t he in last of the summer wine?) fighting it out for the F1/2 title
Off to the bookies to put a tenner on Williams & Nico Rosberg for 2010 F1 World Champs.
Honestly who doesn’t want to see the biggest names compete?
Who actually funds all the tourism, hospitality suits, TV coverage?
The richer echelons in the world.
No one wants to watch the division 2 teams. They should just stick to LeMans or those other divisions that no one watches.
Bring in Aston Martin ditch the rest.
Why does the world of F1 have to be so complicated? Le Mans is so simple: Aston and Peugeot joined as quickly and simple as an Evo can get to 60mph, but in F1 there’s always huge amounts of papers and forms to sign, pathetic arguments and a ridiculous amount of money involved.
Don’t get me wrong having new teams on the grid next year is going to be interesting and might cause a little drama but the only drama that’s coming out of F1 at the moment is for all the wrong reasons. F1 these days is more complicated than the internet! Why can’t teams just sign ONE form and that’s that?
But when all of this ‘drama’ has disappeared into the pages of history we can finally get on with what might be the best ever F1 season. It should be very interesting and unpredictable which is what makes motorsport entertaining. I just hope that all of this drama hasn’t dented some of the teams relationships between themselves and the FIA.
I’d like to see Lola and Prodrive in, and possibly USF1. Campos might get a place if they change their name to something a little less, er, camp.
P.S I saw the man who runs USF1 on the BBC before the quali for Turkey, and he certainly didn’t sound American. Is this right?
If it all goes down the pan, which i think it might, the FIA deserve everything they get. They are not willing to listen to anyone else, and seem to think they don’t need the backing of the major manufacturers. I hope they all ditch F1, it’s what the sport has brought upon itself.
F1 without the big car brands will not be worth watching for anyone. For example, who watches A1GP. No one, because the teams mean nothing, and don’t go banging on about national teams, we all like the car brands that excite us, and thats why we watch F1.
I’ve always wanted to see an F1 with and Aston Martin engine. Really want Prodrive to be given an entry next year
Sorry i meant to say an F1 car with a aston martin engine. sorry
@catersam: that seems like a pretty good idea. it certainly would mean more racing, and more money coming into the sport.
but would it not end up like having div.1 being the actual formula 1 race and div.2 seeming like a gp2 race for seperate manufacturers teams, rather than the current one-make series we have just now supporting the grands prix?
Bored of it now. This will push fans away if it goes on much longer.
How about a single car for a single team. Keeps the budgets down and adds more diversity to the race, and a fair end those team orders as well.
Say what?
Jimmy fish got it completely right as everyone loves the big names but not so much teams that are small as they generally have shit names and crap marketing merchandising ect.
@pw4: its coz the FiA want to wean the americans off their current diet of NASCAR by introducing two new american teams. There’s already plenty of British fans of the sport [at least until the BGP moves to Donington] and we’ve got the recent success of Button and the not-so-recent success of Hamilton to draw us in.
the sport needs ferrari and mclaren and the other big names. it is boring this year watching small teams win wiothout any competition. it was better wen you had 3 teams challenging for the championship. last year bmw ferrari and mclaren were challenging for the drivers and constructors at some point. this year it is brawn all the way. boring.
4 fuk sake… mosly is a dictator hes worse than hitler!!! he makes these rules wich no 1 likes and den expect evre 1 dat dosnt like em to form there own championship
Here we are in June 2009, discussing an entry-list for 2010 which is going to be subject to numerous political discussions for months to come…
This whole list is a non-issue, it is something which is being used to put pressure on the teams involved, and show the world that you mean business.
Funny, mentioned the b-word there. Business, that’s all there is to this stupid riot between FIA/FOTA/FOCA/GPDA etc. etc.
Wish motor-racing itself was a bot more interesting to talk about …
Sick and tired of the FIA. All these politics and rule changes are not good at all. Away with the caps and the ugly wings and the stupid kers. The teams who are in front now are the teams who ignored the fia rules for this season (diffuser, no kers).
Just run Q3 on low fuel, stay on slicks and go back to the 2008 wingdimensions and testtesttest.
That´s what makes F1 extraordinairy, the extreme.
Strongest team wins, doesn´t need to be the richest.
Anything to make it more interesting.
Why cant we have 30 cars on the track? If we must stick to 13 teams then let the ones who want to argue over the rules go. Bring in some newbies and see what happens.
All they need to do imho is to make the cars more evenly matched, and force everyone to use KERS.
F1 is where the money is in car development. Anything that develops better battery and electric technology is a good thing.
Congrats to Jenson Button and the Brawn team, but I’m just disappointed to see Hamilton so far down the grid, he hasnt a hope of defending his championship.
Very much a case of great driver, poor car. Much like poor Jenson for the last few years.
Also is there a way to widen the Monacco track, or change it so that more overtaking can occur. I think there were four overtakes in the whole race.
i think F1 could be much more interseting without some of the massive spending sprees of ferrari and maclaren
we need more people like button barichello and ross brawn, who dont test for ages and have sponesers and moterhomes,
the people who are in it for the racing, the people who made the sport what it was back in the day of senna, jackie stewart and ascari…
bring back the old days..!
The Brawn team is running on Honda money. Wake up.
I think the root of the problem is that F1 is currently dangerously expensive (dangerous to itself).
There is a certain limit in expenses that, once exceeded, several teams (or car manufacturers, sponsors, those that bring in the money) will withdraw from the series. And, once they do it the marketing value of the series goes down and even more money sources will find it’s not worth it and withdraw also.
This would result in a downward spiral that cannot be stopped once it started and would more or less destroy the Formula 1 as we know it.
This is exactly what happened to DTM in 90′ies. Yes, I know F1 has a _bit_ more establishment than DTM did but something similar could happen.
You have to remember that some asian people carrier manufacturer doesn’t really care whether there is F1 in the future but I believe that FIA does.
(And so does Bernie, he’s got to stash some money for his possible “early” retirement)
US F1??? lol
their tracks only go in ovals, they must be avin a laugh.
How much money did they give max moseley then?
USF1? Some kind of horrible joke? Heres hoping
You have to question if USF1 got in on credit or whether its just a cynical attempt to get more Americans to watch F1… I know what I think about it
Catersam that is a brilliant idea! Astton Martin would go straiht to the top within 2 years!
*straight to the top
Andy wait, Lotus is not Lotus? WTF… you can’t trust anybody.
Could I buy the Copersucar name? Ossella?, Tolemann? Not that I could, but if I could, could I?
What’s wrong with you, other people? Andretti learnt to drive in the us, so did Phill Hill. They can produce something. Let them try, what do you want, only english cars? Did you laugh when the japanese got to the F1?
They can’t even do the entry list properly! What’s going on here?
Puma,
I assume your talking about Mario, since Michael didn’t. Learn to drive. Nowhere.
Ferrari/Red Bull/Toro Rosso have NOT “been granted entries” – they’ve BEEN entered BY the FIA as UNCONDITIONAL entries against their very clearly publicised wishes, and on quite shaky legal grounds (based on contracts which easily prove that the FIA is not in any way an impartial organisation, and also based on contracts the FIA itself has already breached). Now please, who out there still tries to argue the case that Mosley is not patronizing anyone or that that’s the kind of government which is needed/has to be tolerated for such a high-value, high-profile, professional and worldwide TV event / sporting competition?
If you were a team owner, would you like to continue paying gazillions every year just to go racing or to have some marketing returns? While half of the profit generated leaves the sport to reward a megascale financial juggling act by some men and women in suits?
Push the Button Max. Or the Button will Push you.;)
and Bernie needs to be ecclestoned.Squeezing money out of teams, just to pay for his next divorce ey?If he wants to retire,he should name somebody like Brawn,Eddie Jordan, or Luca Di Montezemolo as a replacement, and get the hell out of the business. He s got enough money to retire,and eat gold for the rest of his life.
The way F-1 is handled at the moment, i would not be surprised, if they ll tell the teams, that one of their cars has to drive counter clockwise,while their second car has to drive clockwise.
When they changed the Qualify stints, i was like WTF??? And now with more teams? 26 cars? 8 Fail the first stint? 8 in the second? last stint are still 10 cars. I smell :”I had Traffic” excuses again.
@ “OldFart”
All of their decisions and rules in the last few years have been Rubbish.They say,they try to make F-1 cheaper, or ecofriendly(er)or whatsoever. But more cars burn through more fuel and tyres,have to pay more staff.Need more tests(windtunnel hours cost a fortune)equipment/transpo rt etc. I dunno if i miss an important point. But on my sheet this all makes it even more expensive overall. Not cheaper.
But has the FIA EVER invested into a renovation of the tracks they use? the answer is NO.It always is the country, the track is in, who has to pay for that.
Its the teams and their Sponsors that have to pay for their participation, development, tests, cars,equipment,staff,tran sport etc.
Apart from two Old Geezers and a few stewards and Judges,i don t know anybody and i start to ask myself,what the FIA actually does for the Sport.They seem only there to collect money for TV-and other media rights,Licences,Starting fees.etc.
If you have a chicken, that lays golden eggs, you d care for it too, but would you care for it because you like chicken,or because of your wealth?The F-1 would probably need another name, but i bet they d be better off without the FIA.
Its probably just me, but if i had the money to put a Team into F-1, i d rather punch Bernie and Mosley in the face, and pay the bill for that.;)
Hopefully the addition of USF1 will bring back the Canadian GP to Montreal.
WE WANT OUR GP BACK!
JackJack – thanks. I hadn’t realized the 3rd new team (whose name I forget) was American. –
HAAA & The Stig – the USA can do road-racing very well, and it seems to have a solid following. In the mid-1990s, the IndyCar series was absolutely THE race series to watch for close racing, breadth of competition and variety. The series had road races, street circuits, ovals and an airport (ie the runways, like the TG track). Crowds were good – not as big as NASCAR, but still big by any other standards. At least 2 of their road courses look to be the equal of anything on the F1 calendar (Laguna Seca and Elkhart Lake) – and they didn’t require F1-sized run-off areas, which isn’t so good for driver safety but meant these great tracks stayed in use. Even Watkins Glen is still in seriously fast use – Oz TV covered a 6-hour sports-prototype race there a couple of weeks back.
get shot of mosley and all this will go away
LOTUS F1?!?!?!?!?!? YES PLEASE!
THE FIA ARE KILLING THIS SPORT WITH ALL CRAP AND POLITICS GOING ON AT THE MOMENT ,THEY REALLY ARE A BUNCH OF SPANNERS,BERNIE HAS PRETTY MUCH KILLED OFF THE BRITISH GRAND PRIX ,NEXT ,THE WORLD ,GIVE YOURSELF A WELL DESERVED PAT ON THE BACK BERNIE, GET RID OF THIS POWER CRAZY CONTROL FREAK AND MAX THE PERV. I’M OFF MY SOAPBOX NOW ,SEE YA
GO Mclaren
I reckon ‘catersam’ has an excellent idea of running two divisions. That would solve a lot of bickering, confusion and disappointment.
Oh and wouldn’t the Lotus team just be Toyota anyway??
I think there should only be on division with the top 13 including ,
Farrari, Mclaren, BMW, Red Bull, and hopfully soon Aston Martin . GO MCLAREN
Two American teams? Really? You know, I could go out on the street (I’m in Provo, UT, USA) and ask 100 people what F1 is and 100 of them wouldn’t know. I like the idea of having one US team, you know, I can always hope it will finally catch on…I just don’t hold my breath, that’s all.
Oh well! Happy to have a home team to root for finally! I’ve been rooting for you brits this whole time (Button and Hamilton), now I can go back to being generally insulting
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O yipee we got us some red necks Boys
Ecclestone has told USF1 that they can not use “F1″ in their team name, because he claims to own the rights to “F1″, so they changed their name to “USGPE”, US Grand Prix Engineering.
And I think it will be really cool to see a American team, and supposedly they are going to be using a Cosworth V8 engine, so there is always that to look forward to.
I reacon they should just ditch every team, and have a fair and equal aplication process from stratch with no team being favoured! That way the jumped up italians would have to fight it out like everyone else!
Now Aston are gettin into the F1 scene, anyone reacon someone could persaude Lamborghini for 2012????
Why don’t they just let all of the teams run at once, it would give space for new talent, and we may get more than 2 British drivers
who is going to drive or all these new 1 teams then?
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mabey the fomula 2 stars or the gp2 millionares
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do you think alex brundell or henry surtees could
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have a chance for a f1 2010 ride?
at the stig:mabey anthony davidson may come back
from super aguri remember or there is a lot of
british talant in the fomula 2 like jolyon
palmer,alex brundell,henry surtees,jack clarke,tom
gladdis and jason moore if you want to watch
fomula it is on eurosport1&2 next weekend on the
19th june
What the hell is Campos and Manor? Not this again please…
And Ferrari being permanent on the 2010 grid means they conditionally accepted the new regulations? Is that really what happens? hehe…
And here checking the F1 official website everyday hoping that Prodrive/Aston Martin will enter 2010’s grid. Then what do I see? Two random names? Well, I guess Force India won’t be at the back of the grid again on every race…
“The pinnacle of motorsport” – How long may we continue to use this sentece in reference to F1?
The brilliantly polished polished surface and pristine reputation of Formula 1 is continually being lashed and tarnished. The leaders have lost sight of what F1 is about, passionate racing with adoring fans and finding a true champion. The rules and regulations are becoming so complex that they deter the younger audience from watching whilst also driving veteran fans of the sport away.
The only one positive aspect to the current on going negotiations is entrances of new smaller teams such as campos and manor. Setting this aside though leaves a wake of upset teams and a damaged reputation. The sport used to simple be about getting the best driver in the best car, collecting the title at the end of the year and gaining a fanbase in doing so. Can we not get back to this?
Since the Ferrari and Red Bull (including Toro Rosso) teams have contracts until 2012 the FIA has obviously decided that they’re in, whether they like it or not! Come the start of the first race next year the FIA will simply enforce on them whichever set of rules they see fir to impose on them! They’ll either have to squeeze themselves into the budget cap or risk having to compete on the ‘tier 2′ rules…
The rest of the ‘old boys’ seem to be caught between a rock and a hard place. Do they give in now and try their best to renegotiate after signing? Some media report that Ferrari and Red Bull are “angry” about their confirmed status. Toyota I presume will probably use this rules fiasco as an excuse to follow Honda out of F1… Brawn and McLaren have stated that they’ll try and compete in F1 which ever way but they’re sticking to Fota because they believe change is necessary: so they’ll resubmit unconditionally. BMW I presume will also enter unconditionally as F1 has become BMW’s principal motor sport marketing programme and they are filtering the technology development to their road cars. I would presume they’re quite miffed at the engine rules though… Renault won’t leave either because in reality they need the sport to give their performance cars credibility and they also need the cost cuts.
On the other hand the European Motor Manufacturers Association has now called upon the World Motorsport council to intervene in this. Could the manufacturers now start moving onto ‘plan B’ and start rolling out their ‘big corporation’ influences to use outside politics to push Bernie and Max into a PR nightmare of public dissent?
I still think this will be my last year of being a committed F1 fan. Bring on MotoGP!
I am a loyal Ferrari fan, but I’m not going to be a dick about McLaren and say that they should leave, because that’s not who I am. I wouldn’t mind to see BMW leave, they havent done anything this year and their car is pretty hideous. And what is the point of Torro Rosso? It’s just a worse Red Bull team. They can leave. Bring on Aston and Lola!
this whole thing is a complete fiasco.
Want Hamilton and Button with Prodrive.
Button for champ!
Why cant FIA stop running F1 like a dictatorship or better yet keep on doing it and force the teams to create there own super league (like the premiership out of league 1) with no rules about cars creating the most exciting sporting event ever.
This is FIA’s dictatorshipover the last years, making F1 less attractive and too regulated. Every single year they cut the engines, aerodnynamics and so on. Why! The means of F1 is that you watch out of space technologies in a extreme car, what’s all that rubbish over the last years. This must end and it must end now! New organisation, regulations and less cuts in the engines, aerodynamics and no more hidius money limits! We will be watching the new series and no other rubbish from FIA, whether they insist to have races without the giants!
Mosley has his facist routes and he’s certainly sticking to them
Can we please talk about actual motor racing instead of stupid political shoot-outs like these?
oh god, this just shows that f1 is only politics crap. I think ecclestone should retire and Ross brawn should be the new chief of f1 if brawn gp cant afford another season. Also, f1 wouldn´t be able to survive without ferrari and mclaren; they´ve been here so long that half the fans would leave with them
Or… If FOTA decides to make a new championship (FormulaFOTA perhaps?) and Ferrari and Mclaren joins this championship, wouldn’t that be great? Thats going have a bigger blow towards FIA Mosley and Bernie…
you think the english are the best in every thing but i say to you did alonso start the fight between him and hamilton if you saw the day it happend hamilton was the one that broke the agreement by not leting alonso go by and any way he already demostrated this year he doesent say the trouth so i live you to think about your special love to england i have nothing against england ( i live of the inglish in spain) but i have to say they want every thing done like in england and here in spain we are a bit tired VIVA TOP GEAR AND VIVA VILLA
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooo………
There shouldn’t be a limit on the number of teams…
All the new teams should be allowed in.. give em a chance..
USF1 will be the new super aguri
im beggining not to care, the polotics are stupid, the rules are ridiculous, the racing will be nothing, they aero is stupid, and the safety sucks all the fun out, jut bloody die f1! then we can get a proper sport using cigar tube cars, manuals, no poltics, and no damn safety,mebbe even the return of the nordschleife, then id care, till then, well, im off to continue watching old footage of jimmie clark and co, when racing was, well, racing.
Hmm so its not actually lotus at all anyway… ex lotus employee’s but still not really lotus!!!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/spo rt1/hi/motorsport/formula _one/8084475.stm
US F1 should have a decent year at least or F1 here in the US is hopeless and I will have to move to the UK
haha damn a lambo team would be awesome
i say the FIA continue to be the stubborn bums they are, and let the manufacturers leave.. all week long i’ve been hearing rumors abour break away series and yet none of the manufacturers have denied talks about it..
and i would REALLY love to see a break away series without the FIA. who ever says the teams can’t work together and come to agreements is blinded by the past.. whats happening right now is a unification of teams and their handling things pretty maturely and looking for a stable government.. so i dam well think they can handle their own series.
lambo team would be amazing yes but about the question asked at the end of the F1 post, personally i’d deliberately annoy the FIA to remind them that ferrari bring them a huge fan base and to check how many ferrari flags there are at the next grand prix and that they should realise that what they’re doing is ridiculous. all because they want more money for themselves, same issue with the world banks right now – this is why we’re in turmoil. utter selfishness! either way thats politics. my point is that i’d love it if ferrari would stay and more should be done about this.
1)kick Mosley out
2)run q3 on low fuel to give qualifying a clear and competative character
3)bring the wings back to the 2008 dims to make the cars sexy and cool again
4)skip stupid kers, this was a huge moneyburning mistake
5)stop the budget crap, this will become a mess with even more politics
6)the fia role for future should be background!
result:F1 will be alive and kicking again!
max mosley is an idiot, ruining f1
The problem is that if FOTA does spilt and form a new series FIA has all the contracts to the tracks/countries so the FOTA series will be forced to race on substandard tracks until those contracts run out with the FIA. THat said there are some amazing European tracks out there that arn’t raced on by F1’s. A1, Imola, Paul R, ect
I wonder if Ferrari and Red Bulls are forced to compete next year, whether they can run a design similar to this years car but just build one car per driver and sit out every qualifying or just not put any development whatsoever into the cars to see out the contract. It’d be funny if every race, they ran 1 lap of fuel. This would be a major embarrassment for the FIA.
They could concentrate their efforts to build a proper series of racing. Most people love F1 not only for the racing but because it is the pinnacle of the sport and technology. I would love to see a World Championship Grand Prix. WCGP.
FOTA should keep at it. If it’s not fixed properly this year just break ties on the basis that what the FIA are doing with the rule changes is NOT F1.
Conspiracy theory – Mosely is deliberately trying to disband F1?
It’s almost guaranteed that the USF1 car will consist of more red white and blue than anyone can possibly handle…. oh boy.
aston martin should of beenin it along with locus why should a country have a f1 team named after them
I love catersam’s idea of a two tier idea (post number 8), but i just feel it could get a little complicated, and some people would only watch the top division leaving the bottom division with less money etc.
i’m paticularly surprised with prodrive, i thought they would be a cert to get in
Love the fact manor is in the sport, coz they are based 15 mins from me and i know the owner, get rid of toyota for aston martain, now for the gulf paint job….
For how long we have to see and hear Mosley telling us his personal opinions that can be easily transalted to ´´´personal vendettas ´´´´ the more I read, the more it make me sick.
Can somebody tell me if FIA belong to Mosley or is been run by a competent group of intellingent people??????????????????? ?????
f1 with out mclaren is like the ginger beer convention without James may!!!!!!
I love how the fastest street legal cars on the Ring are American. ZR1 and Dodge Viper ACR. Suck it Europe WERE ON MARS! RED ROCKS!
No but seriously we win at Lemans and F1 without the fan support/knowledge from the clueless American public. Most Americans have no clue about the GT40 1-2-3 finish at Le Mans. That makes it even more embarrassing for European countries where that type of racing is their bread and butter, eh?
Sure..though I admit an Indycar nowadays looks way better than this yrs F1!
this kinda suxx big time. There are some ridiculous names trying to enter, such as USF1 and Superfund. Fund means ASS in romanian. SuperASS, great team name.
where’s brawn
BRAWN GP are the best i think mclaren has slipped now that BRAWN GP are around…. goooooooo
BUTTON
It is clear that none of us are aware of all of the facts so it is inappropriate to make swingeing statements about those involved. However it is interesting to note that today (Monday 15th) FOTA has not denied that there are certain members who seem hell-bent on scuppering what seems to be a deal with FIA. Whilst no names are mentioned I get a nasty suspicion that this is no longer about the good of F1 but a direct conflict between di Montezemelo and Mosley. Ironically I bet many FOTA members have more affinity with the latter than the former. It will be interesting to see if FIA blink before Friday or if FOTA becomes more splintered as more teams follow Williams and Force India.
I miss Takum. D:
Team USA ??? let me guess the Americans want in because they have given up in nasscar which is an oval and want some corners in fact it would be hilarious to let team USA in because they would just enter a nasscar.plus they would be giving the USA USA crap a go.
Just thought id be the 100th comment, can’t wait for silverstone, hangar straight baby!
I think this is rubbish!
Brawn should be allowed to stay!
Maybe Lotus should be allowed in with Aston, Peugoet, Nissan, VW, Jaguar and Land Rover/ Range Rover ?
I don’t see why we have to have a whole load of blast from the past names in F1, surely it is much more interesting to move forward with new teams.
I also can’t see why people believe that it should be a british dominated sport.
More and more teams are now based outside the UK including, Toyota, BMW, Ferrari and Torro Rosso. Might be a better idea to let some other motorsport nations get a foot in the door.
Having March, Lola etc compete for only historical sake is a bit silly really. Notr everyone is an old man least of all the new fans that the sport seeks to attract.
I would like to see more European private teams compete and even better some teams from outside the continent come in.
The world has moved on people!!!!!!
go away renault, go away bmw, go away toyota…..hello brawn, mclaren, lola, Prodrive and lotus
Haven’t Donington Park got the contract for the British GP from 2010? It’s only about 5 mins from where I live!
my solution would be: Dismiss all the teams who have points less than given X by the end of the season and let’s give some place for the newcomers. Would needs to face some changes from time to time…
I think it would be a shame to lose some of the big teams,such as ferrari and Mclaren.Thats my opinion anyway.
Unless more teams start to challenge brawn GP,its going to be a cakewalk for them
Renault can bugger off.
There is simple facts
. F1 are making the sport a waste of time
. Brawn F1 will not get dropped also as Button And Barrichelo are major competiters now.
.If they drop teams like Ferrari,Mclaren,Brawn and Renault they will loose major money from ticket sales
SO BASICALLY KEEP EVERY ONE AND STOP BENDING THE RULES!!
F1 NEEDS FERRARI
Why do we care about any of this? The rules always change, there’s always controversy, there are always last minute deals and there’s always a certain healthy amount of backstabbing going on in the background. Let’s face it, it’s gone a bit boring this year not because of FIA, FOTA, Mosley, Ecclestone or the so called trick diffuser controversy but because two of the top teams (McLaren and Ferrari) produced piss poor cars, opinions voiced by none other than their own pilots. The thing to do is to just wait and see if these teams are capable of addressing their own issues before pointing the finger at somebody else.
The major rule changes for this year brought the regular teams in trouble. They worked following the FIA rulebook and came out nowhere, this is no coincident.
The teams who win now ignored the FIA rules (no KERS, diffuser). No wonder the regulars are sick and tired of the FIA! Ugly cars, boring races and a white team without sponsors winning races, Brawn designed the best chassis with Honda money but they were already working on it for ages while the top 3 was still trying to fix the \’08 season, which was the best ever seen, why this bloody rule changes anyway???
If they win this year, I doubt Brawn will be allowed to go, not sure about the others. I\’d like to see McLaren back in 2010, but the way things are going, I\’m not so sure they will be…
It would be a lot better to get the cars equal at the beggining of a f1 season,and then it would be down to the skill of the drivers and the progress of the cars.That would make it be a lot more exciting
Formula One for me – this is Ferrari, McLaren, Renault and BMW.
Championship with new teams Prodrive, USF1, Campos Meta, Lotus, Superfund, Brabham and other “great teams” interested only for Max Mosley.
I’m from Norfolk so i’m obviously supporting lotus’ move into F over all the overs even aston.
*F1
Why did they pick USF1 over Lola, Prodrive, and Lotus?
They all have motor racing experience! You can’t say USF1 would be better than Lotus! They invented the aerofoil in motor racing almost 40 years ago! Maybe they could bring another innovation to the sport