Webber’s pole vault

Posted by Jamie Hibbard at 1:27 pm on Saturday July 11, 2009 45 Comments

Quali at the German GP today was definitely the most exciting one of the year so far. Loads of changes at the front, and some scary moments provided by the rain.

Mark Webber got his first every F1 pole, which he’ll no doubt be ‘bloody chuffed about mate.’

The Brawns of Rubens Barrichello and Jenson Button respectively split the Red Bulls, with Sebastian Vettel managing to escape the one-off helmet jinx, ending the day in fourth.

Force India’s Adrian Sutil did an excellent job also with his one race only helmet livery, achieving FI’s first entry into Q3. He finished seventh on the grip.

Toyota’s Timo Glock didn’t fare so well, his home race helmet forcing him out in Q1.

Nelson Piquet did marvelously well, beating his two-time world champion teammate Fernando Alonso and posting the second quickest time in session two.

He rounds out the day in 10th for tomorrow’s race.

Lewis Hamilton’s upgrades served him well, and perhaps more so than on-track improvements, it gave him fistfuls of confidence. He finished fifth, and if it rains tomorrow, he’s well placed for a great result.

I also Tweeted Brawn GP and asked what the deal was with the new striped wing mirrors. The reply was ‘they feature the Graham-London brand, a Brawn GP sponsor, who has produced limited edition Brawn GP Watches’. So there you go, 21stC technology is alive and well.

So, to tomorrow’s race. You can’t beat rain for spicing things up a bit, as it equalises the grid a lot more. So who do you think’s going to win?

It would be great for Webber to take his maiden victory after waiting so long, but I just don’t get the feeling he’s going to do it. Not sure why though.

So I’ll put my money on Rubens, but would really like it to be Lewis.

For full results, go to BBC Sport.

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  1. paulom said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 2:09 pm Link to comment Report comment

    I think webber has a brilliant chance and it would be fantastic if he did win. Likewise for Rubinho, he really deserves a win. Just one mind, dont want him to catch Jenson too much. In all honesty though, I believe it will be a fight between Jenson and Seb Vettel, dont know why, I just have a feeling.

    Fingers crossed for Jenson to get back to his winning ways!

  2. J-2-da-B said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 2:09 pm Link to comment Report comment

    I’m really sad for Glock, he’s one of my favorite drivers…

    I mean, him being in the shadow of Vettel as Germany’s #2 driver (put those 2 in a team, & you have an unstoppable formula), the lose of his old racing engineer & the current no chemistry between him & the new one, along with the whole “home race” issue!

    Poor guy; I pray for a magic trick to happen, & let him drive the same way he showed in Malaysia a while back, when he cut 7 seconds per lap & finished 2nd before counted 3rd!

  3. Anonymous said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 2:22 pm Link to comment Report comment

    well here is hoping lewis is a bit heavier and has a great start with KERS to take the lead early on in the rain, odd noone ever talks about KERS anymore, but I will also be cheering for Sutil, about time he got some points

    but I also get the feeling that Webber doesnt have a win in him tomorrow, its a shame but I just dont see it.

    I am really curious about the weather and fuel loads for tomorrow now, could be a great race.

  4. SVettel said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 2:37 pm Link to comment Report comment

    I think it would be nice if Webber won, with Vettel second, and then Vettel won all of the other races, and Buttons car broke down each time.

  5. Graham Potter said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 3:14 pm Link to comment Report comment

    The race is made for Rubens. If the weather is like today he sems to make better decisions about tyres. Webber usually stuffs up off the grid when on the front row. It will be an interesting race.

  6. Showie said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 3:25 pm Link to comment Report comment

    come on Vettel. we need to tighten the championship, nothing against brawn but i do hope they both retire to make the championship interesting. hopefully Ferrari can finish well. forza Vettel and Ferrari

  7. Jean said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 3:31 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Remember Rubens on pole with the Jordan in Spa in same conditions? He ended up in the gravel..
    Go Webber and make it yours !

  8. imacarnut said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 3:47 pm Link to comment Report comment

    jenson button for the win… Nonetheless theres always rubens

  9. ben said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 3:50 pm Link to comment Report comment

    button to win

  10. Thomas said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 4:00 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Nah, Brawn should just fluke from now on. I don’t dislike either Jenson or Rubens, but some stiffer competition on the championship would be nice. For me it’s either Hamilton or Webber to win, not because I’m certain it will happen at all, but more because Lewis needs it and Mark deserves it after all these years. I would be chuffed to bits if both brawn cars didn’t finish. Oh, and Massa and Raikonnen, don’t get too greedy tomorrow, 4th place and lower is ok, as long as Lewis beats the both of you.

  11. F1 Fanatic said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 4:20 pm Link to comment Report comment

    I don’t understand why nobody ever mentions Nico Rosberg. He’s reached Q3 every time this year, and he has got the longest chain of consecutive finishes, which is still ongoing.
    He’s finished every race since the 2007 French Grand Prix!!! That was over 2 years ago!!! Although in honesty, you have to wonder why he hasn’t turned these facts into race wins.
    Tomorrow though, it’ll be Vettel, from Webber, from what I’d hope to be Sutil (if he’s going to win Force India’s first ever point’s, he shoud get the most out of it)

  12. paulom said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 4:27 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Re F1 Fanatic

    Apart from today, he didn’t even get close to quali 3 so I doubt a race win is on the cards. Rosberg is very good though.

  13. Mr Oliver said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 4:30 pm Link to comment Report comment

    cheese is tasty

  14. Graham Potter said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 4:45 pm Link to comment Report comment

    F1 Fanatic. Sadly you’re wrong. The man you’re talking about is Nick Heidfeld.

  15. steveisthennextstig2 said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 6:02 pm Link to comment Report comment

    LEWIS all the way!!!!!!! It’s all about driving and Lewis is the best driver for sure

  16. Pedant said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 7:09 pm Link to comment Report comment

    1. Webber 661kg
    2. Barrichello 647kg
    3. Button 644kg
    4. Vettel 661kg
    5. Hamilton 654.5kg
    6. Kovalainen 664kg
    7. Sutil 678.5kg
    8. Massa 673.5kg
    9. Raikkonen 674kg
    10.Piquet 676kg
    11.Heidfeld 681kg
    12.Alonso 668.2kg
    13.Nakajima 683.6kg
    14.Trulli 683.7kg
    15.Rosberg 689.6kg
    16.Kubica 673.5kg
    17.Buemi 674.5kg
    18.Fisichella 662.5kg
    19.Bourdais 689.5kg
    20.Glock 662.3kg

  17. Twonker said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 8:37 pm Link to comment Report comment

    I think Webber should have it in the bag looking at those weights, but you never know… in all honesty I certainly wouldn’t be-grudge the chap a win he definately deserves it.

    But my main interest this weekend is how well Sutil finishes, I really hope he brings it home in the points even if its just 1 it’ll mean the world to the team and I think they deserve it.

  18. mcsomething said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 9:00 pm Link to comment Report comment

    i agree with f1 fanatic nico f*cking rocks. jenson only ever wins when his car is perfect. whereas hamilton is still putting on some great drives in a really crap car

  19. Simon Diamond said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 9:06 pm Link to comment Report comment

    If you think Hamilton’s good, take a look at Kovalainen!
    Heavier car with none of the aero updates and still nearly as fast as Lewis!
    Webber ftw!

  20. Thomas said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 10:39 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Simon Diamond: Kovaleinen is not a bad driver, but he is nowhere near Lewis. Weight might be one thing, qualifying times another, but I’ll almost bet that Kovaleinen won’t get any points tomorrow, either he won’t finish or he won’t be able to keep the Ferraris behind him. If he does get points it will be really sweet for him personally but also for the team, they need all they can get at the moment at McLaren. At least if they want to hang on to Mercedes for engines.

    My dream finish would be Lewis in first and Kova in second, no doubt about that. But that’s a dream, and will most likely remain one.

  21. Simon Diamond said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 11:01 pm Link to comment Report comment

    You’re probably right, but i still think Kovaleinen was more impressive than Lewis in todays quali.

  22. Andy said...
    Saturday July 11, 2009 at 11:47 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Its Webber’s turn.

  23. YankeeDoodle said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 12:11 am Link to comment Report comment

    vettel for podium, that’s a must.

  24. runforitscooby said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 12:54 am Link to comment Report comment

    I think everyone agrees, Webber deserves the win, he’s been the backbone for Red Bull the past few seasons and deserves the luck.

  25. Ferrari kid said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 12:56 am Link to comment Report comment

    hey this is the downfall for brawns dominance, they haven’t got the money to develop and red bull can affoard to take risks. the british mafia in brawn have let button have it all his own way so far, so its good rubens can finish ahead, but vettel will win the championship, hes young, confident, fit, and the most talented driver on the grid

    and watch out for the ferraris into the first corner with KERS. :)

  26. spitfirextbg said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 2:14 am Link to comment Report comment

    Go Webber!

  27. Q said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 2:53 am Link to comment Report comment

    Also if team tactics coupled with good reliability can work for Webber I think he can bag a win in Germany.

  28. bob said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 5:48 am Link to comment Report comment

    Webbers got the pole, and by the look of the fuel load he should be able to win his first race unless…. ermm bad luck intervienes

  29. Oi said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 7:30 am Link to comment Report comment

    The difference between Hamilton and Kovalainen’s time in Q3 was huge , but that’s because Hamilton’s car is running with the aero updates while Kovalainen’s car isin’t. Overall i’m hoping for a Ferrari 1-2 with Sutil 3rd. Which won’t happen , but i can dream :D

  30. Anonymous said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 7:57 am Link to comment Report comment

    I think the win (weather permitting) is mainly down to who makes the best start: I can see a banzai charge from Barrichello at the start making him a real threat – he’s also got a great history at this track. Webber is looking in A1-form but can he sustain his pace throughout a whole race to win? This is his best chance so far but I still have a niggling doubt because Vettel always seems to have better race pace – I see Vettel being the main contender along with Barrichello.

    I think Button for 2nd/3rd but no higher and Hamilton as a real wild card could threaten the podium. It will be interesting to see if Mclaren’s KERS can get both their cars up a couple of spots at the start – that will spice things up a bit!Can’t wait for the race (and a little rain!!!).

  31. blah blah man said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 9:00 am Link to comment Report comment

    oh what’s the point? Button has already won F1 champion title of ‘09 and i’m glad he won it, he deserves it.

  32. what a race! said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 10:46 am Link to comment Report comment

  33. topgear rules! said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 10:47 am Link to comment Report comment

    if those fuel loads are right adrian sutil has a good chance of points! go force india

  34. topgear rules! said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 10:56 am Link to comment Report comment

    with those fuel loads you can wonder why bourdais in 19th on the grid
    i think glock has had a bad day last on the grid at his home gp and only enough fuel to go as far as the top 6 driver
    this is how i think it will finish
    1.webber
    2.button
    3.vettel
    4.barrichello
    5.hamilton
    6.sutil
    7.Kovalainen
    8. raikkonen
    9.alonso
    10.fissichella
    11.massa
    12.rosberg
    13.heidfeld
    14.kubica
    15.buemi
    16.trulli
    17.glock
    18.piquet
    19.nakajima
    20.bourdais (who i think will be replaced for the hugry race)
    it’s only a guess

  35. Mikeado said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 11:00 am Link to comment Report comment

    I would just love Webber to win, he really deserves it.

  36. hamster said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 11:57 am Link to comment Report comment

    dont think button will win. hamilton might get a podium. vettel might come second. bourdais will crash. Suttil is going to get some valuable. heiki will crash into a fezza (this is just a wild guess) webber will win

  37. hamster said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 11:58 am Link to comment Report comment

    deffo webber deserves a win . He hasnt won in ages

  38. Nathan said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 1:24 pm Link to comment Report comment

    I guess so.. :)

  39. Jclark said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 1:56 pm Link to comment Report comment

    He’s won it!!

  40. Andy000 said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 2:19 pm Link to comment Report comment

    @ comment 37

    He hasn’t won ever until now. Well done Webber! And people seem to forget about Ferrari. Massa did pretty well too.

  41. Big Red Balls said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 2:26 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Absolutely supreme victory by Webber(despite a drive-through penalty)!Still not quite convinced that Button can quite be caught by(either of)the Red Bulls but then again,Red Bull have TWO drivers who are a threat to Button thus increasing their points potential, whereas Brawn have Barrichello slowly sliding backwards – and his verbal outburst after the race won’t help the situation – and his defence of Button’s lead is going to be half-hearted at best.Can’t wait for the Hungarian GP – I hope Red Bull can sustain their dominance.

  42. Squaddiemodo said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 2:26 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Nice to see Webber winning, seems he has taken a driving course from a certain Mr Schumacher though!

    Rubens needs to stop whinging, he made a rod for his own back following Schuie for years

  43. stumpy said...
    Sunday July 12, 2009 at 2:37 pm Link to comment Report comment

    what a drive for mark webber!!!! but why is every 1 countin away buttons points so soon in the championship the next 3 curcuits will come in for the branw cars and they’ll have upgrades don’t count them out just yet

  44. FERRARI MCLAREN FAN said...
    Thursday July 16, 2009 at 1:19 am Link to comment Report comment

    GOOD JOB!

  45. runforitscooby said...
    Saturday July 18, 2009 at 11:41 pm Link to comment Report comment

    Great drive by Webber, awesome drive by Massa and Rosberg too, bad luck for Sutil. I hope Sutil can get into a better drive when his contract is up, hes got real talent

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