Jenson Button has signed on to drive for McLaren from next year. At least, that’s what BBC Sport are reporting.
In a move that’s expected to be officially announced later on today, Button will line up as 2009 World Champion next to the 2008 World Champ Lewis Hamilton in an all-British super team.
Maybe McLaren just like having the number 1 sticker on their car?
Some circles are unconvinced that this is the right move for Jenson – including Brawn/Mercedes GP team boss Ross Brawn – as the Woking squad has been built around Lewis.
Even the car is unlikely to suit Button’s understeery style, as Hamilton prefers a large amount of slidey oversteer to enable him to do his thing.
However, McLaren proved this year that when it comes to building stuff, anything is possible, so they could potentially make two decidedly different cars to suit their two decidedly different drivers.
Plus, it seems like a wise move on Jenson’s behalf, being that McLaren are certainly more likely to have a race winning car than Mercedes GP.
Personally I think Jenson’s going to have a hard time competing against Lewis at the latter’s home team, but then it’s better to be the number two driver with a winning team than the number one driver at a mid-field squad.
Plus, his bank balance is sure to be more healthy.
But more important than the Lewis/Jenson head-to-head, whose WAG is going to maximise Sunday screen time – Nicole Scherzinger or Jessica Michibata?
Mulberry handbags at 1 o’clock…


Very disappointed in this for Lewis’ sake. I predict a mauling of Lewis in the British media if he beats Button, and a mauling of Lewis in the British media if Button beats Lewis.
Lose lose situation for Lewis. I wish Button had stayed at Mercedes GP.
Why are you under the false impression that the McLaren is more likely to be a race winning car? Brawn/Mercedes GP has a dev headstart of at least a month!
I want Brawn back already
too bad Money seems to rule in Jensons World…
He was earnig 3million a year….. and would probably get some more this year but it wasn’t enough. So he signed up with mclaren
Golddigger is the name I presume that would suit such a decision.
Lewis got my support in the head to head with Mr money
brawn was originally the best choice, but after the stalled talks and the merc buyout and their ‘team germany’ ambitions maybe not quite so appeasing… mclaren was the best bet at this stage in the day
i’m a button fan and expect lewis to be superior in a team built around him and a car well suited to his style, but with the no refuelling, Jenson’s silky smooth style should come out on top in a few races
i think lewis will beat jenson. jenson is a good driver but lewis is a great driver, the best alonside alonso. Will be an interesting year
mclaren will be strong in the constructors champ as jenson can get good points where as hekki could not deliver.
providing they mclaren have a good car. lewis for drivers champ and mclaren construc champs
Brawn/Mercedes were actually reportedly offer Button £8m compared to £6m from Mclaren
Jenson made a mistake I believe he will have to play second fiddle to Hamilton. Jenson will become a second Rubens, but Mercedes will want Rosberg in their “factory”(ex Honda) car because he has the German nationality and Hamilton versus Button will
not be very interesting for anyone except for the Brittsh fans.
Lewis is going to humiliate Jenson next year.
Instead of slagging Button off for being a golddigger how about acknowledging the facts and giving him some credit for not hiding from the challenge of partnering Lewis?
Cant wait!!!!
Bad move, Jenson. I predict a riot in McLaren next season. It’ll be 2007 all voer again!
it’ll be a great year, cant see no refuelling lasting long though, it’ll be amusing to watch to some teams miscalculate their fuel and simply run out. So far as jenson situation goes i think hes done the right thing.
jenson has made a bad move here, he said on topgear when he was interviewed that he would give all his wealth for the championship title and also why would you change teams from one that has got you the championship
When was the last time a team in f1 had two world champions?
That was fast, that F1 website just keeps surprising me more everyday.
I’m surprisingly bored by this bit of news. I actually like my F1 teams to be like Batman & Robin – a superhero with a colorful sidekick who occasionally kicks ass in the fight. Now we’ve got Batman & Superman on one team and everyone’s gonna start arguing which is better. Eventually I’m gonna say, “Screw it. I’ll root for Webber.”
I think that this will lead to brawls akin to Hamilton and Alonso.
I think that the team is going to just have to let the drivers duke it out to decide for first and second.
This money argument is retarded. Kimi Raikkonen was earning about £25 million a year to -not- win races, while Jenson was taking a pay cut to win the championship. The man is entitled to a pay rise, and even with a new deal at McLaren he’s still probably earning half of what Lewis earns.
That said, I do think it’s disappoint he left for McLaren. Brawn/Mercedes was Jenson’s team in the same way that McLaren is Lewis’ team. And Mercedes have a way better shot at the championship than McLaren currently do.
now button is in trouble as hamilton will outperform him badly
When was the last time Mclaren and Mercedes competed with eachother in a F1 season?
And i’m 100% sure that at the end of next year Hamilton & Button will not end up with similar amount of points.
I wish Jenson all the best. Its pretty obvious that Mercedes GP wanted German drivers or they would have signed up Jenson at any price. Hamilton is the best driver on the grid but this wont stop Jenson picking up on Hamilton’s mistakes. Cant wait for the 2010 season.
Why is erveryone talking about Mercedes wanting to create a “Team Germany”? Yes, they want a German driver for marketing reasons (actually they do for quite a long time) and as long as this particualar driver has Rosberg’s quality, what’s wrong with that? Nick Heidfeld’s unemployment comes in handy since he’s very experienced and probably willing to play second fiddle in order to stay in F1. Mercedes is said to be fed up with the scandals at McLaren occuring over the past few years, which might be another reason for the split. Their factory stays in England and most of their staff is English, but many components of their car come from German suppliers (as it’s the case with most F1-Teams). If you want discuss nationalities in F1, why not talking about an “Anglo-German-Cooperation ” (for a change)?
I guess I’ve spread enough harmony by now; bring on some serious competition in 2010!!
can’t wait to see lewis and jenson battle it out! surely lewis will revel in beating him and gaining his second title!
I’m still a bit concerned about Button.. His championship was a lot about having the best car (it’s been that for many drivers, but last year was taking that to the extreme, with both brawn drivers rocketing to the top of the game first half of the season.). Seeing things through my eyes, I can’t see any scenario except Button going backwards, destroyed by the more talented Hamilton.
I think Jenson is more Kovalainen than Alonso compared to Lewis..
Nothing but personal thoughts here though, I’ve been wrong tons of times.
But at least I think I see things from a neutral (JB vs LH) point of view, as a 100% Ferrari follower.
I can’t wait for the next year
D
Sooo Jenson sucks for his entire career, Ross Brawn comes to his rescue and gives him a great car that is leaps and bounds above anything else on the grid. The rest of the grid catches up to Jenson, Jenson coasts into the championship purely on the strength of points built up from the start of the year and proceeds to leave Brawn. If I was Jenson I would be sticking with the guy that knows how to win….who was behind all of those Schumacher championships anyway…ROSS FRICKIN BRAWN.
I’m absolutely gutted…….. still hoping it’s all just a bad dream and upon waking up i find that Kimi is the one they’ve signed for next year. Lewis will have a tough time…………in the media, that is. I dont think he’s got much cause for concern as far as in-house competition is concerned. his dad must have a 15 foot wide grin on his face!
Lewis is a way better driver than Jenson – end of story!
just what i did’nt want to happen
p.s. mclarens need to be painted orange now,i don’t want german silver arrows and english silver arrows,it’s not right
,it is sill the worst choice button has ever made,merc gp would have have been so much better for him,he would still be driving under ross brawn,it’s f1 not a1gp
@ moo,grow up
Why is everyone being so pessimistic? Are you aware that the two current greatest drivers in Formula 1 (both of which are British) who are both World Champions and great friends are going to be driving together for one of the most established and competitive (and also British) teams, McLaren!?!?!
C’mon, people!
This can be no worse that last season, surely!
i blame mercedes for being greedy
it’s like ferrari introducing scuderia ecosse into f1,with dario franchitti and david coulthard
I can’t imagine Jenson being happy at McLaren, or staying there for long. Within a day after leaving Coulthard had a 5 o’clock shadow. Just because for years he hadn’t been allowed not to shave. Even Alonso cut his hair. So I don’t really see flamboyant Jens fitting in over there.
At last something us brits can be prouds of two world champions in the same team cant wait.
So it’s Britain vs Germany next year then? WOOP!!! Don’t think Jenson will do well at McLaren, the car’s already finished(ish) for next year, and it’s been built around Lewis, ie, oversteer, not what Mr. Button wants. Good! Come on Lewis!!!
Disaster lad. People wont realise it now but RAIKKONEN will be a massive loss to Formula 1.
Personally, I think Jenson has just signalled the beginning of the end of his career. In his first year, he will be beaten by Lewis, 2011 will see him become the teams official no.2 and he will get sick of it in 2012 and will retire after that. 3 years and counting Jenson. It could have been so much different had he stayed with Mercedes.
Plus, it proved he LIED on topgear when he said he was not in it for the money, he has left “his” team and gone to “lewis’” team because of some extra few million that he can dish out to his already filthy rich grandchildren in 40 years time. As a result, I hope he flops at McLaren.
Seen as Kimi is now gone, on the HULKENBERG!!! and vettel
2010’s going to be really great season and it’ll be just fantastic to watch Lewis and Jenson going head to head in the same car – what better way to decide who is best? AND we’ll have more great coverage from the Beeb – the golden era continues! Roll on 14 March 2010.
I can’t really understand why everyone thinks Jensons move to McLaren is bad. When i heard the news today i was extatic. I cant wait to see the only 2 formula one teams in NOW the only british team too have won the championship recently.
Also everyone thinks it will be 2007 all over agin. It wont. Ron Dennis has now effectivly left McLaren F1 (Brawn GP now mercedes GP) & the team will let the drivers fight fairly. Like with Brawn GP letting Button & Barrichello fight for the championship. Two friends who didnt care who won the title. I think this it what it will be like at McLaren.
All we need to know now is the future of the British GP. With the news of Button & Hamilton joining up it might encourage the people at Sioverstone to sign. Simply because the tickets will probably sell.
Formula One is about:
McLaren
Williams
Manor GP
And About:
Jenson Button
Lewis Hamilton
& if he returns Anthony Davidson.
And Finally:
The British GP at Silverstone.
Can’t wait for 2010!!!!!
@Rubis Hamichello
the issue isn’t really a repeat of 2007 with hammy an alonso, the problem, for Button, is that he’s truly going to be shown the way round a race track with Lewis as his partner.
Can yoo imagine if McLaren make another pig of a car? Hamilton’s proved he can haul it into the points and develop it into a race-winner. Whereas Button complains of problems with the car when he’s on the podium, and can’t fight with a car, he seems to give up. He’s proved that time and time again
Wow at the end of this season hammo will probably be in the top 3 and button will probably be somewhere around 7,8. I wonder if he will regret his move then…
This is getting weirder and weirder. surely nothing else this strange can happen now.
First we were waiting for alonso to go to ferrari, then BMW quit, then toyota quit, renault might quit, then Brawn get new owners and renamed Mercedes, now this. What next, ayrton senna racing for renault next year?!?!
Also, has Nico Rosberg signed to Mercedes yet?
Sigh…. Shame Brawn couldn’t stay on the grid and win some more championships, I always loved their distinctive cars and personality. Ah well, should be an interesting pairing.
@DD TG – it’s widely believed that Rosberg has signed on with Merc, but nothing official yet.
But who to partner him? I think that Schumacher bloke might be free next year…
It’s dissapointing that hardly anybody mentions Kimi’s departure from F1 – I think he would have been a real challege for Lewis in the same car (more so than Jenson). At his best, Kimi is as fast (and quite often) faster than anybody else on the grid. I liked the fact that his performance could be totally unpredictable.
I will miss this funny, irreverent, mumbling and totally media-unfriendly (how refreshing) charactor who pissed everybody off with his blank-faced indifferent attitude
Come back in 2011 Kimi!!
@Jamie (well everyone actually) – interesting how the bbc say that Nico and Merc. have DEFINATELY signed, but nowhere else does. Where does the bbc get its information from?
Whilst im here – Nico to Merc (inevitable surley), Nick H to Merc, Kovlainen back to Renault (remember he was there in 2007!), Trulli to Lotus, and Toro Rosso and Force India with the same drivers as they ended the season with. erm dunno about the rest yet.
anyone else agree?
rookie monster – I though every day, until the other day when Brawn where taken over by merc benz, that Raikkonen would go to Mercedes next year.
We have a German team with British drivers that must work well.
About what Button said on Top Gear: He said, he’d spend all his wealth for the champ title. but guess what. He has it now. Its time to get some money back.
Sure, not the most loyal move,towards Brawn,but a good thing for nationalistic fans. For all those, who were wondering, who the bestest british driver is, you’ll find out first hand.
TeamGermany vs.TeamBritain? yawn, couldn’t care less.
Still living in 1945?
Why is everyone so hard on Button? It is possible that Mercedes/Brawn F1 does not have a seat for him. In that case, McLaren is the next best scenario.
why cant brawn stay its a shame that they are going to be a diffrent team and ross is going to have about 27% of the team and he has lost control is so bad !!!!!! i’ve brought all the kit literally i dont like the idea
hi you startin
yeah so go away
i know it’s a shame that i dont own all of brawn gp any more but i think the team will be great
where will kovolinon go
its going to be bad without BRAWN GP WHAT A SHAME
i ment to do this
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I know he going to get offered more at Mclaren but I think he’s let his fans down including me. He was my favourite driver but not any more. I am very disapointed that he has to join such a crap team. Who’s to say that Mclaren will have a good car next year. From now on I’m supporting Williams and Rubens Barrichello. Ross Brawn also shouldn’t of let his team just fizzle out like it has.
Team GB!
fab the best 2 drivers with equal equipment remember Senna/Prost ,cant wait. Miss brawn though
I like the duo in one team. . . but not mclaren. Mercedes GP or lotus though . . .
Jus one thing to say . . . this will make for some good racing and contraversy! Love it! <3
Oh and a fact for the non motorsport people here
70% of all motorsport is in the UK – so thats the championships, the production, design etc. and almost all of the teams (take away ferrari and i think thats it) are british designed and engineered teams.
2nd fact: Out of every pound that YOU earn in the UK, 1p of that comes from the motorsport industry. so 1% of GDP in this country is motorsport. THATS COLLOSAL! So team germany?? more like Team UK, or more SPORT UK
it can be good and bed. we will seee
next year is gonner be so close
the car will be built around hamiltons aggressive driving style so its gonner be harder for button to drive.
but the no refueling rule suits button because his style is so easy on the tyres that he could probably go one less change than hamilton.
it’s gonner be close
and the people saying he’s following the money
he’s getting no more than he would anywhere else and he’s still getting less than half of what hamiltons getting and even less than that compared to raikonnen who’s getting paid to not drive
can you stop doing that
pete
don’t you dare say a single bad word about Kimi, he’s now off to Finland where he’ll finally be able to do what he’s best at, rallying
he’s been smart enough to be able not to compete in F1 and still get a larger paycheck than that of Jenson, what a brilliant move!
Next year Jenson will feel exactly what it is to be Rubens Barrichello, he’ll have the honor of losing to Hamilton! who wouldn’t want that??
Jensen Button has fallen into the trap, Hamilton wants to show that he’s better than Button and then dispose of him
i never said anything bad about kimi
i actually quite like him
i simply stated the fact that he is being payed somthing like 25 million from ferrari to not drive
Raj
You are a genius! That’s exactly what Jenson will be doing in 2010, he’s gonna make Lewis look even better than he already is. Everybody knows Lewis is a much better driver, Jenson’s got a championship under his belt now and is going to show the world who’s the best british driver (Lewis, just in case).
Thats a shame, Button should have left on the high, instead he is going to embarrass himself thouroughly vs Hamilton. I’ve said it before and I’ve said it again, Button isnt that good, only reason he won is because his car was that much better than the rest of the pack.
Can’t wait for 2010 already,i think JB has made a totally awesome move..and i am looking forward to seeing what Mclaren and JB can achieve in 2010.Go Team GB.Hope Ross Brawn’s not too disappointed with JB’s move…From Amanda Gale….F1 and JB fan since he came into F1…
If the cars right there is no stopping mclaren next year
if button is so awful and the only reason he won was because his car was so much better than the rest of the pack
then why didnt barrichello win the championship
@ Jamie Hibbard, McLaren won’t have “The number 1 sticker” on their car, unless I’m mistaken, Brawn GP Mercedes have won the 2009 CWC…
pete
exactly! Kimi has been coasting ever since 2007 when Hamilton dropped that title on his lap and yet he’s managed to take a season off while being paid to drink and rally back in Finland, isn’t that a brilliant move? that’s better than Jensen who is now on his way to humiliation against Hamilton, who can blame him though? a much better paycheck and who knows? Hamilton could start having bad luck instead of finishing with bad luck like 2007.
it was a good move from kimi
hope he’s back in 2011 though
and yeah it was a bad move from button
not because i think he’ll get spanked round the track
but because hamilton is the number one driver at mclaren so every desicion will go to him the car will be built for his style and if those two are at the top of the table when we come round to abu dhabi next year i wouldnt be suprised if jensons been told to ‘make a mistake’ that allows lewis through
pete
Come on! Barrichello’s been in the “2nd place-make-me look-good-business” since 2000. He pratically won Schumi 5 titles and this year embarrassed himself so badly he ended up in 3rd!!! That wasn’t even in his contract. Everybody knows Barrichello exists so that other drivers can look good. Rubens should try Hollywood, he manages all this while actually making the brazilians believe he stands a chance!
thats what he was for in ferrari this year it was an open fight between the two (except for valencia which didnt make any difference really) and barrichello is by no means a bad driver.
so surely if button is so bad he would not have been able to beat him.
pete
That’s true and it’s so sad. It’s always sad to see that. Button, as average as he is, doesn’t deserve this. But then I’m struggling to believe that he doesn’t already know this could happen next season.
he’s probably thinking that with daddy dennis gone there should be more equality in the team
Exactly what the Doctor ordered (Not Valentino Rossi, I am talking about David Coulthard), somebody who can be the wing man to Hamilton, and if Lewis drops the ball, he is capable of winning.
pete
I never said Barrichello was a bad driver, on the contrary, to me, he’s a better driver than Button and could prbably have won a couple of titles back in Schumi’s era if he hadn’t been so sandbagged by Ferrari, Reubens knows he’s good, he also knows he’s supposed to lose and make others look good, it’s in his contract! lol
Lucas.M
Exactly! Jensan is the perfect sidekick to Lewis, he will make Lewis the champion of champions!
@Sean
if I am correct, Mercedes GP is, in essence, a new team, like the transistion from honda to Brawn this season, so their car will not be 1 and 2
NOOOO. Jenson is a far superior driver to Lewis what on earth is he thinking??? *headdesk*
It’s just a bad idea *goes off into a corner and cries*.
Why is it wrong that Jenson wants to cash in finally at the dawn of his career? Why not taking the best chance on making money he will ever have?
I can´t blame him. Now its competing against Lewis with the same weapons. For me its, chapeau – that is also a sign of real strength, knowing what he is up against the whole Hamilton tribe.
Merc/Brawn a german team? BS!! british management, team combined with german engineering, engine and money, sounds international to me. And the genius of a decade in the back – Ross Brawn.
Why everybody are talking about money and Ross Brawn.
1. The car Brawn did had was Honda. Just engine switch
2. The team survived thanks to HondaÅ› support/money
3. Button istn bad driver. I event think hes one of the best. Fact that he stayed with BAR and Honda hoped that they can build a good car but dint isnt hes fault.
4. McLaren is one of the best teams out there. Fact that they managed to recover for the 2nd half of the season shows what they can do.
5. Its better to be nr 2 driver in top car than nr1 driver in midfield car.
Dont complain so much and feel happy for everone who wins the title. its should be entertainmend and fun. At the moment, when everyone is complaining seems that its like a source of stress.
Keep up the good mood and show some respect towards the winners.
Without good car noone cant win. Button managed to take max out of the car and did it very well. There are drivers who have had top cars for years but no results (Kimi is one of them: 5yrs in Mclaren, 3in Ferrari)
Tom
Anyone could’ve won this year’s championship in that car. It was lighyears ahead of all the other cars for christs sake. Only Schumacher had such an advantage over the others back in his time.
Button was British in a British team which happened to be the best in the grid, what did you ppl expect?
Who’ll have the number 1 sticker on their car next year?
Charlie
Either jenson or one of the germans in the Mercedes GP team.
Jenson will bring it to Mclaren, lewis number 2, then MercGP 3 and 4, RBR 5 and 6, ferrari 7 8 and so on
It’s interesting that Jenson should bring number 1 to McLaren. It’s the cars that really win championships these days, I think they should keep number 1.
Its all great news for British motorsport. All the best Jenson.
to Stig
How is it good news for British Motorsport if everybody knows Lewis is going to win? Jenson stood a much better chance in Brawn GP.
@Charlie
Jenson -1
Hamilton -2
Vettel -3
Webber -4
Barricello -5
I know it seems unlikely, but I’m hoping for Rosberg – Raikkonen @ Mercedes GP
That would be awesome!
Raikkonen couldn’t care less about F1. I say give Kimi a year’s supply of Blue Nunn and let him go back to Finland so he can drink and drive alone.
im the best and i should be in the seat of jenson cause he was a lucky world champ.
Jenson! You DICK! You left a great team for a crap one and a team mate for a knob!!! Weldone!
You call a sell out such as Barrachello a team mate? Jenson is about to discover what a real team mate is like.
@ Wayne
Hamilton is not a knob… He is the best driver out there
and as for McLaren, They are the best team in F1… They proved it by coming back as the strongest team in the second half of the season
Hamilton stands a much better chance than most of the grid next year. Jensen had better be thankful for having another go. As for the rest I think Massa and Alonso stack up very well against McLaren.
its a shame that jenson hasn’t stayed with ross brawn for another season. It will go two ways next season for button – hamilton will be beat him or jenson will prove he is not just a one hit wonder – i hope the later.
the best thing that could happen is a fight for the championship between hamilton and button, that would be a season to top 2009!
Jenson’s Move to McLaren is a Bold one to say the least, but to have Both the Former AND the Present British F1 World Champion driving for a Championship Winning Team which also happens to be British, this is the kind of excitement F1 needs. Couple that with the re-fuelling ban and you got the starting block for what could be one hell of a season, Bring on 2010, Can’t wait!
I wish Hamilton would fight against Button ’till the end, but having at least 3 other teams against them, we all know how this is going to end. If one of them should be priorized of course it’ll be Hamilton. Let’s not forget what happened this year, Jenson had the entire first half of the season in his hands, all he had to do was manage the rest of the year.
@ NCSUK15480
Let’s hope there won’t be another one-horse-race this year. It’s all I ask for.
Im surprised jenson is going to mclaren hes a great driver but the aggressive mclaren wont suit him I hope he does well at mclaren
Exactly, Button isn’t aggressive enough to stand a chance against Hamilton. It’s a very promising next season anyway!
you’re all saying that maclaren are the best because they had a great end to the season after a poor start… but noone seems to have mentioned that button scored more points than anyone else in the last 6 races of 2006, in which he had by no means the fastest car
@That guy
I remember Button being constantly beaten by Reubens back in the Honda days as well.
I can’t understand why Jenson would want to go to McLaren…Lewis will wipe the floor with him
@Ashie
We all know what Jensen wants in McLaren, he wants MONEEEY!!! Of course he knows he doesnt stand a chance against Lewis. Nevertheless it’s going to be interesting, the last 2 champs against each other!!!
It’s good for both of them AND it’s good for the spectators, what else could we want more??
Everyone already making predictions of how it will go wrong, tut tut, give them both a chance and maybe they will shine.
Good luck lads for next season
I’m a long time JV fan but I have a tremendous amount of respect for Jensen Button.
He took a pay cut and paid for his own travel expenses to help Brawn; few years back, in order to void his contract with Williams after BAR was bought out by Honda, he reportedly paid Williams $30Mil; and when Honda was on the verge of making it to the top tier, they went backwards but never once did I hear him complain unlike some other drivers.
I get the feeling he’s they type of driver who will drive any car, even an uncompetitive one, and try his best, for the love of racing. I feel the same about Mark Webber. Can’t say that about many other drivers including Hamilton.
@Mod Uncle
I have to agree with you on that. Button seems to like to race a lot more than some of the others in F1, including Hamilton which seems to be way too sure of himself all the time (I would too if I had a life contract with McLaren).
But what do you mean by Jensen paying 30 million dollars to Williams??? As rich as he is I don’t think he would pay anyone that kind of money, lol.
McLaren did a good thing, the best team of drivers by far. Hope they will kick Ferrari and ‘Mercedes GP’ ass! Can’t believe Mercedes is going to let McLaren down, such an incredible stupid decision!
F**k that Mercedes,Ross Brawn and Rosberg will be the champion in 2010
@91 dumbo,
If anyone could have won in the Brawn why didn’t Barichello who won 2 races to Button’s 6.
Does anyone know, outside the team, how far Brawn (now Mercedes) have advanced the design of their 2010 car given they reportedly had next to no money to develop it?
I’m not the biggest JB fan but I hope he relishes the ‘underdog’ tag whhen he’s at Mclaren – I doubt there’s much a seasoned F1 driver hates more than being dismissed as inferior to his new team-mate before he’s even had a chance to prove himself – maybe the low expectaions of alot of people will encourage him to raise his game even more to prove himself. Personally, from past observations, I think he drives better when he’s in an underdog position.
Of course, the other scenario is that the pressure of having to match up to the undeniably very talented Lewis, in a team built around Lewis, will indeed prove too much and he’ll buckle but good luck to him for rising to the challenge – remember, roughly this time last year, Jenson’s career prospects couldn’t have looked any more different to how it does now: now he’s the world champion with a drive lined up at the legendary Mclaren! Swings and roundabouts.
I beleive the 2 world no.1’s are going to make a great team and Mclaren have chance of winning the title this season
I’m with rookiemonster, I’ll miss Kimi a lot. His monosyllabic understated comments were cooler headed than many stiff-upperlipped Brits could ever manage. He could be a stand in for Stiggy… IN fact, some say…
I really feel for Kimi missing out, but after all, he did become a lazy pig in the red car in the first place. He had lost the chissel jawwedness of his that he was famous for with black and silver. Look at how fat he has become.
McLaren wasn’t to have the fire that Kimi had before, so may be the right decision.
Jenson, with the Honda team, has spent quite sometime midfielding and with Lewis as his partner both stand a chance of bearing each other out. Jenson has that defensive style whilst Lewie down right agression. Be it any day McLaren have a good chance of scoring points, both excitingly and/or consistantly.
good idea Tad. Now is the ideal time for Top Gear to call Kimi in the studios. Wooohoooo.
Personally, I would’ve like Rosberg to be Hamilton’s team mate. That way we would’ve had a clear no.1 & 2.
But now the raining world champ is supposedly the no.2 but drives the car with no.1???!!!
I just hope JB wouldn’t turn into another Alonso and f*** things up for Lewis.
Why the hell do many of you call Jenson “Jensen” and Kovalainen “Kovalinen”? Is it really that bloody hard to spell a name right when you’re commenting about that person?
And Jenson will be humiliated by Lewis next year. I’m sorry, but you all know that.
Now, if the rumors about this thing with MercGP and Kimi turn out to be true.. then maybe F1 can be salvaged.
No refuelling is SHIT
Off topic I know, but Spa has been given a licence, will it be on the calendar next year?
people should shut up about the money issue… no body here would turn down a pay rise of any amount to do the same job so stop being hypocrites and let him get on with his job.
and as for the MercGP farce… it was probably planned a long time ago think about it… Virgin switched to Manor… supposedly cos they want to support a underdog… i dont think they wanted to support a factory team and hence turning Manor in to Virgin GP. Button probably didnt sign for Brawn not cos he wanted a payrise but because he knew about the Mercedes takeover and had to wait until it was announced before moving… why? i don’t know what do you guys think?
I don’t think Button is going to be trounced by Hamilton as many seem to think, but if McLaren can get the car working for both it will very much be dependent on the type of track. If the track requires the car to be hustled (think Monaco) then Hamilton will have the upper hand, but if the track is all about smooth transitions (think Catalunya) then Button will have the upper hand; all my opinion of course…
As for the money discussions, the rumours are that Brawn actually offered Button 8m but for a shorter time period, so maybe Button really does believe that McLaren has a greater chance of winning Championships.
@ myky. I think there’s no doubt that the drivers were aware of the Merc deal which is why driver ’silly season’ has lasted so long this year.
As for why, perhaps Brawn were not able to put an actual figure on the table for Button until the deal with Merc was done and next years budget was set?
@H. For the moment Spa is on the provisional calender for next year, apparently the ‘environmental impact’ of the circuit is to be assessed again by the local authorities before signing up for the 2011 race.
still don’t have any clue about what the hell is exactly going on in f1 nowadays.i have said it before and i’ll say it again,i am going to wait for all this madness to subside before giving my opinion..
though i must say that this all british theme is catchy.two so very different drivers.two very different wags..
by moneys on jessica,coz she might know karate!
i have supported jenson for years. This is a bad move for him. Ross Brawn is a genius and jenson is a good driver. mclaren focus too much on lewis and that will be to the detriment of jenson. neither the car nor the team will suit jenson. ross brawn will out-tactic mclaren and lewis will get mclaren support and jenson will end up being an also -ran.
This will be an opportunity for Jensen to prove who was the real world champion. Him or the car.
Some real sad comments on here and prob from the same people that slated hamilton at the start of last season have now turned on Button.
Should any of you haters get a chance to sit in a car on a track with Jenson and have a natter whilst flying around the track you would discover a very down to earth bloke who is a great laugh.
Hamilton may be the next Shoe maker, but Jensons not done to bad so give the guy a break and look forward to the next season rather than bitch about someone you havent even met.
@mugen and ben27 you are so right,rosberg will probably be champ and button dosen’t suit button’s driving style
i meant the mclaren doesn’t suit button’s driving style,my mistake
Think about it though, new regulations mean that they have to start with a full tank of fuel. This means that pit stops will only occur for tyre changes. That was Brawn’s strong point, it was easy on its tires and so Mercedes GP should beat mclaren. Button should cope better than Hamilton in races, but just think of what this has done- Germany vs Britain and just think of what the TopGear team would say in the TopGear news about this…
Hang on a second, Was a Button fan. Just because he switches teams, doesn’t mean you can just slag him off. I’m a fan of Jenson’s (and Lewis to be honest) and I still support them now. And that’s no bull.
Imagine if the great Schumacher switched from Ferrari to something else, e.g. McLaren. What would people be saying then? What you said about Button.
McLaren is still British, don’t forget, just not as much as Brawn used to be before Merc bought them. And we now have two British drivers driving for one British-ish team. So fermez la bouche. (I just felt like writing that, in case anyone asks.)
i still dont get why everyone says he’s following the money for two reasons
1) he isnt getting anymore money than he would have anywhere else and less than he would have at brawn/mercedes
2) as if any of you wouldnt change team to get a bigger pay cheque for the same job
next year is going to be great buttons smooth driving style on the tyres with no refueling against a car built for hamilton
and then the ferraris which are notoriously light on the tyres
When Mclaren was doing well Mercedes bought some of it, when Brawn was doing well Mercedes sold Mclaren shares and bought Brawn. Does the term jumping on the bandwagon sound accurate to anyone else?
Mclaren with their English drivers v’s Mercedes and their rumoured preference for two German drivers.
Just wondering how much would Mercedes be willing to stump up for Vettel (complete fantasy) but an outright England v’s Germany car/driver set up would make for quite interesting media attention…just wonder how Bernie will be able to implement a Semi Final !
Then again will it just come down to penalties ?
tarik your disgusting
look out if hammie and button join rest of thr world watch out brits rule
i dont know what most of you guys are talking about but JB sure as hell did not leave for the money. Look on Autosport, Fry and Brawn said they offered jenson a larger contract compared to McLaren. Jense replied that he wanted a challenge, and were else to get a better challenge then at McLaren going against one of the fastest drivers on the grid?
I just hope Mclaren make a good car next year, if they don’t, it going to be disappointing for us brits next year.
Lewis is going to give Button a spanking in 2010. Cant wait. Got a front row seat already!
Hey Jenson! bad bad move. Remember Alonso’s arrival at Mclaren? He came in as a double-world champion. Ron’s baby is going to get the works and you’ll be getting leftovers.
I still think the Brawnmobiles are going to kick some serious arse next year!
and oh.. good luck jb!
He make big mistake
http://www.f1db.ru/jenson _button_new_champion_f1_2 009.htm
Anyway
Mistake or not this we see 2010 At the moment the fact is that McLaren is much more secure team than Mercedes GP this time. Jenson doent want to have same future if team is quitting. He wans good car and confidence for the future.
Go Jensen!
well Jenson wont be earning more in McLaren.. he has confirmed that now.. he is here for a bigger challenge that is going against Hamilton.. and by god he is going to get one.. but the sole looser will be McLaren in the end as the duo of Hamilton and Button wont be able to compete against Massa and Alonso.
I think it is a big mistake on McLaren’s part to take him to get an all British team.. no offence but didn’t F1 used to be all about competition than nationality??.. we have A1 for that!!!
And now that Kimi has also confirmed that it dint get finalized with McLaren and the issue was not money (as Ferrari will be paying him off anyways), I feel pity for him. McLaren should have finalized him as I think he is the only guy available who can pair up with Lewis and create an explosion on track against the Scarlet drivers and also the only one who can give Lewis a run for his money in the same car.
Kimi was more motivated than ever for the upcoming season to get into a car that can help him fight for championship. McLaren was the only option there. It was a perfect combination. Shame the deal dint go through.
I hope Button realizes that Brawn is a better place for him and shifts there in season 2011 and Kimi takes his place. We may still see the tag team of Kimi n Lewis going against Massa n Alonso.. fingers crossed!!
personally i think that id jensons going to join mclaren then he is still going to be competing against lewis for points like he was with rubens last year so to be honest i think jenson needs to up his game if he is going to be a serious contender next year. i with lewis all the way
GO LEWIS!!!!!
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i THiNK THAT BUTTON MOViNG TO MCLAREN iS A BAD MOVE CAUSE i DONT THiNK HE STANDS A CHANCE AGAiNST LEWiS BECAUSE LEWiS WiLL HAVE UPED HiS GAME. !!!!!!!
GO LEWISSS!!!!!!!!!! X
In fairness to Button, he has played the long shot team in the past. Even with Merc’s backing, Brawn is still a long term unknown. An opportunity to race with a McLaren or a Ferrari would not be passed by most of the racers on the grid.
Also from McLaren’s view they made the right decision between Button and Kimi. Would love to see him somewhere else on the grid (rather than not at all)
btw, thanks Ysmalari.
Jenson better comes 2nd with a McLaren than 1st in a Mercedes GP. Mr.Brawn might still has to learn how to treat drivers, it is no coincidence that both his drivers left his team. Still I think Hamilton will be the faster of the two though.
lol british drama queens.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/spo rt1/hi/motorsport/formula _one/8368107.stm
Big Schu in talks with Merc about a drive for next year!!!
Lewis or Jensen??? Who will ultimately rise to the top and prove their true worth as champion and show the world what a proper little tantrum is like? My money is on Button he trains harder and competes in triatholons therefore he should have the edge in throwing his teddy out the pram further than Hamilton. 2010 let the strops and diva pouting begin.. ARE WE sure there isn’t a typo in Grand Prixs!?!
I have long been a Button fan – right from that start when he was with Williams. HE has always had his knockers for various reasons but he stuck with BAR/Honda when the car was less than competitive in the hope of them finally getting it right. Honda did, in that the 2009 car was developed by Honda and Button took a pay cut to continue to race for them.
The fairy tale is complete with Brawn GP’s only season and it was a Championship winning season at best.
As to better driver of Hamilton or Button, my reading of it is that Hamilton is better on a single lap and Button is better over race distance. Button can drive remarkably consistently and very smoothly so is the lightest of all the drivers on his tires but at the expense of out and out aggression. Hamilton is known to thrash his tires with his aggressive style but this can slow him down later on. With the ban on refueling and no team using Kers next year (not banned just nobody using it), the tyre changes are going to be crucial. I can see Button being able to run 2 stops to Hamilton’s 3 and being more gentle on the transmission.
Then again, anyone who doubts Button’s aggression obviously didn’t watch the Brazilian GP!
seems like a dream team
Lewis Hamilton Rocksmysocks!!, JB’s great too,
at least they’ll become better friends i hope …
I’m pleased I feel Jenson can handle the challenge I’ll miss him at Brawn/Mercedes
but I understand him moving I still support Jenson and always will hes a decent bloke and a good friend of Lewis Their friendship can handle it too. I’m actually both a Brawn/Mercedes and a Maclaren and I’m happy that way it’s looking like a very good season for 2010
All of this about hamilton/button rivalry is bollocks..
Massa/Alonso?
i can see some serious rivalry there.
odds that alonso is back at renault in a year after throwing a strop at ferrari?
Chris, that thought crossed my mind too!
I see JV is in training: http://en.f1-live.com/f1/ en/headlines/news/detail/ 091118161121.shtml
…Award for most delusional ex-racer?
We want Jessica Michibata of course!! haha!!
Anyway, I somewhat think Lewis is the better man. And I think Jenson is more humble than he looks, which would prevent a riot… But still, the thought of having two world champion drivers in one team. Deadly.
Someone has probably already corrected the people saying this move was about money… Button took a step down in his salary to go to McLaren. I don’t personally rate McLaren, too many sloppy errors from the team that the drivers have to make up for and defend. I’d have actually preferred Brawn to continue as they were and take on Button before McLaren totally ruin his career. But I understand Button’s move, and I like the idea of an all British team, I just have no faith in McLaren.
we may not have a home event…
ROSBERG HAS BEEN CONFIRMED FOR MERCEDES!!!
jenason is class
he shoud not of joined mercadies
slow james may
i found this on the web this is what a lotus f1 car might look like in 2010
http://www.f1fanatic.co.u k/wp-content/uploads/2009 /10/lotus_2010_f1_car_2. jpg
who do you think will be the drivers for manor gp,lotus,usf1,mercedes and campos
glock-manor
senna-campos
rosberg-mercedes
who else will join them
danica patrick-http://cdn.comple x.com/assets/images/Indiv iduals/Complex_Women/0420 08/danica-patrick-560.jpg
scott speed-
http://lolnascar.files.wo rdpress.com/2009/10/scott _speed.jpg
piquet jr-http://resources.sport ingo.com/gallery/Getty-Im ages/Nelson-Piquet-Jr.jpg
alex wurz,schumacher,trulli,ko boyahi? who knows
aswell i think button + hamiton will be a brilliant team good luck
it will be awesome with hamilton and button
Yeah people stop complaining about which team Button drives for… just be happy that both him and Hamilton are in the best position to stitch up the Fezzas and the new German Merc team.
In answer to the important question, can we please get the cameras tracking the lovely Jessica please instead of the unattractive dog that is Nicole…..
Being a little more serious, Glad to see Button leave German GP, just hope that he gets lucky and the new McLaren suits him better than Lewis, though I suspect that Lewis will come out on top.
Another battle that is about to commence:
The annoying attention seeking overbearing F1 Drivers Dad’s. Mr “I never smile unless Lewis is world champion then I end up in every picture grinning like an idiot” Hamilton and Mr “My pink shirt is pinker than pink” Button.
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m supporting “Pink Shirt” Button!
regarding lewis being a better driver than jenson…
jenson is allot older, and had allot of shit from the media over his time for not winning races. he has been run down allot over the years. lewis is young, and had success early on. people have seen lewis walk into a race winning car (not saying that he isn’t deserving of it) and win.
people watching the race, will undoubtedly assume jenson is a bad driver as they see another british driver succeeding. reading things in papers about lewis being some sort of racing prodigy doesn’t help jensons case either.
i am not surprised people think this. most of the people out there who say lewis is a better driver than jenson are likely to be people who don’t know a great deal about formula one or racing.
anyway. rant over. cannot wait for next season! no refueling, massa will be back, and my favorite driver has the number 1 sticker
@ Mr Tyke
i see some people speak sense on here. you’ve pretty much nailed what i was getting at.
Well, we’ll see. I consider Lewis to be the more talented, but Jenson showed us this year that his drive can be consistent if well-motivated. He’s going to have to add all his knowledge up if he’s to clinch the title again, especially against Lewis and Alonso in the Ferrari. We also need to sit and wait to see if Merc’s getting Kimi on board alongside Rosberg, ‘cos if so, with Mr Brawn’s mastermind, McLaren may have a bit of a hard time next season. I mean imagine the same team with a full-on factory sponsorship…
Renault is also on the leave!
Thanks FIA for all you have done to destroy the best sport on the world over the last few years!
The cars are about to look like bicycles next year with even more narrow front tires and still this idiotic big front wing and this ‘flag on the bag’
back wing.
Please mr.Todt, show us how F1 can be attractive again, please! Change the bloody rules back before it is too late !
Toyota should sell there team to Brawn and he can do the exact same thing he did with Honda. Brawn GP II powered by Toyota (I know they were crap, but Brawn seems to have the Midas Touch). Toyota then hold off the LF-A for sale till 2011. Brawn wins again and then Toyota get there dream. Constructors Championship, then LF-A hits the streets and the Toyota marketing guys have a field day linking it to the F1 car! Cause common 300,000euro, f that! But if my scenario works then at least they have something to stand on
Im very disapointed with jensons decision personally, but i hope that it works out well for him. I just hope that Lewis Hamilton doesnt beat him every race, Come on Jenson.
lets hope big Ron can manage two top drivers this time Hamilton / Alonso …. Prost/Senna it aint lookin too good on past performances but bring it on et allez englaise
what do you mean big ron? ron dennis has left, martin whirmarsh all the way!
Yeah mr Whitmarsh is the boss man at Mclaren now, let just see what happens when the season gets underway, if jenson doesnt get on with lewis then he could go back to Brawn/Mercedes couldnt he, surely they would welcome him back. Then anthony davidson could go to Mclaren insted.
The other driver pairing at Mclaren what would be great would be Hamilton and Kubica, thats if Renault do pull out at the end of the year. I hope that they dont though.
Another pairing could be Hamilton and Heidfeld.
Hamilton and Button as a team! wow i can see a Hamilton/Alonso battle starting again.
Next season is probably going to be the best yet with 2 British world champions in the past 2 years in the same team why are some of you people not thrilled to see what will happen considering they are both good friends
and they will be chasing each other all season.
Rubbish! Few remember Jenson’s best momento’s in F1:
2000 BRAZILIAN GP: PASSING JOS VERSTAPPEN WITH TIRES NEARLY ON GRASS IN ONLY 2ND F1 RACE!
2000 GERMAN GP: FINISHES FOURTH IN RAIN AND ONLY 1 SECOND BEHIND DAVID COULTHARD IN THE McLAREN
2000 BELGIAN GP: QUALIFYED 3RD: AHEAD OF MICHEAL SCHUMACHER!
2003 UNITED STATES GP: LEADS RACE FOR 15 LAPS IN THE B.A.R, BUT RETIRED DUE TO ENGINE FAILURE.
2004 SAN MARINO GP: PUTS CAR ON POLE FOR B.A.R AND FINISHES ONLY 10 SECONDS BEHIND MICHEAL SCHUMACHER.
2004 MONACO GP: QUALIFIES 3RD BUT FINISHES 0.497 OF A SECOND BEHIND RACE WINNER JARNO TRULLI
2004 GERMAN GP: STARTED 13TH AND FINISHES SECOND, PULLING OFF A SUPERB MOVE ON FERNANDO ALONSO AND WAS GAINING ON WINNER MICHEAL SCHUMACHER.
2005 GERMAN GP: OUT OF NOWHERE, DIVES PAST MICHEAL SCHUMACHER FOR 2ND AT THE TIGHT HAIRPIN AT HOCKENHEIM.
2005 BELGIAN GP: AMAZINGLY, HE OVERTAKES FORMER WORLD CHAMPION JACQUES VILLENEUVE WHO WAS IN A LIGHTER CAR, IN THE RAIN, ROUND THE ULTRA-FAST POUHON CORNER, AND AROUND THE OUTSIDE.
2006 HUNGARIAN GP: STEALS FIRST VICTORY AFTER A STUNNING DRIVE FROM 14TH ON THE GRID IN THE RAIN AND IN THE HONDA WHICH WAS NOT THE BEST CAR.
2006 BRAZILIAN GP: AGAIN FROM 14TH, HE FINISHES 3RD, AHEAD OF MICHEAL SCHUMACHER AND KIMI RAIKONNEN IN BETTER CARS AND WAS ONLY 0.7 OF A SECOND BEHIND F.ALONSO WHO WAS SECOND.
2009 AUSTRALIAN/MAYASIAN/BAHRA IN/SPANISH/MONACO/TURKISH GP’S: WINS ALL OF THESE GRAND PRIX’S IN THE INDESTRUCTIBLE NEW BRAWN.
2009 BRAZILIAN GP: CLINCHES 2009 TITLE AFTER FINISHING 5TH AFTER STARTING 14TH ON THE GRID AND PULLING OFF OVER-TAKES ON SEBASTIAN BUEMI, ROMAIN GROSJEAN, KAZUKI NAKAJIMA AND KAMUI KOBIYASHI.
AND LETS NOT FORGET LEWIS HAMILTON IN THE 2007 CHINESE GRAND PRIX BEACHING HIS CAR IN THE GRAVEL ON THE ENTRANCE TO THE PIT LANE!!!! {BREATHES} OK, I’M FINISHED NOW. GO JENSON!!!!!
its goin 2 be an intrestin yr
Jenson is the best. There is no doubt about it. This season will be jam packed and hopefully Jenson will win again.
i really think that jenson is doing the right thing as mclaren is a geart team for any1 and this year is the first ever time that mclaren have made a bad car and i really hope the 2 most talented british drivers ever do really well in there first season toger!!!!
I’m so sad that Brawn GP have pulled out and let Mercedes GP take over. I was probably one of Brawn GP’s biggest fans and now i feel so depressed that their gone. i made posters, i was going to buy all their F1 Teamwear and now to find out that their out :O
. Joe = Upset
i also think that Button’s going to struggle with McLaren because they will be more focused on Hamilton and just treat Button the way they treated Kovalinen, like somebody in the background. Lets hope they both do well in the 2010 Season :S
Boooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooo oo!, Jeson you suck man! McLarewn made a terrible desicon by not offering Kimi. In my opion, Kimi has more potetnial than Hamilton and Button. He is another Alonso! I hope Ferrari domintate next year while i hope McLaren would have another trash year in 2010, just like they had in 2009. Booooooo McLaren! Ferrari vs. Merceds Bnez next year!
it was big ron. it is big ron and it always will be big ron, announcements are media gestures n martin is the whipping boy vivre big R
everyone goes on about jenson and only after the money when it was reported he took a massive pay cut just to stay driving in f1! so in fact he did trade the money for the world championship! its i good move to maclaren it will make for a good challenge to two top drivers who drive in totally different ways to great efffects bring on the start to the new season
I think Jenson may end up under pressure from his teammate and make bad errors like kovalainen last year!
Jenson is the champ no matter what the future brings.
this decision makes me respect him even more.
Fernando Alonso will be 2010 WDC mark my words.
Awesome .. very stunning topic. I am goin to write about it likewise!
WHO DO I THINK WILL DRIVE FOR WHO? WELL…
McLAREN: J.BUTTON, L.HAMILTON
MERCEDES: N.ROSBERG, M.SCHUMACHER
FERRARI: F.ALONSO, F.MASSA
RED BULL: M.WEBBER, S.VETTEL,
WILLIAMS: R.BARRICHELLO, N.HULKENBURG
RENAULT: R.KUBICA, L. DI GRASSI
FORCE INDIA: A.SUTIL, V. LIUZZI
TORO ROSSO: S.BUEMI, J.ALGERSUARI
LOTUS: J.VILLENEUVE, J.TRULLI
CAMPOS: B.SENNA, A. WURZ
US F1: J.M. LOPEZ, S.SPEED
LOTUS: F.FAUZY, A.YOONG
SAUBER: N.HEIDFELD, C.KLIEN
WHOEVER DOESN’T AGREE WITH ME doesn’t know f1
BRING ON 2010!
BRING ON 2010!!
Sorry I said it twice by accident
@ SAID SAID: DW it does that sometimes…
so, Kimi isnt moving to McLaren?
coz i heard he was. & that Shuey is comming back to Fezza, & that Alonso is moving to Fezza, & that Massa is retuning to Fezza, but obviously that doesnt work coz, theres only 2 cars…
can some1 tell me who is driving for who?
@ no comment: oh, thanks!
thats that sorted!
That’s OK
2010 is going to be a corker of a season. I personally think the Scud well prevail because they spent all of 2009 doing work on next years car, so they will probably win BUT they might do a BMW and spend all last year doing next years car and next year they have NO successes at all.
Well, I’ve not really liked McLaren in recent years; I liked them better when they had Prost/ Senna or Senna/Berger but now i’ll have to root for them because Jenson is my favoutite driver. I expect McLaren will be right behind Ferrari.
Mercedes/Brawn will also be competitive, as Brawn switched focus to 2010 after Turkey, and they still won the title. They’ll obviously still have a Mercedes engine, which was the best last year so they’ll be a strong force, especially if they get Schumacher in the car.
And then we have Red Bull. Armed with chassis designer Adrian Newey, they’ll be right up as well.They still have a Renault engine, which isn’t the best on track but they have two great drivers to make up for it. Mark Webber is consistent and can rack up the points. while Vettel can deliver wins.
I CAN’T WAIT NOW! ROLL ON 14th MARCH 2010!
@205 you missed out where kobayashi is going??
personally i love the fact that there is now a fully british team made by brits only powered by a german engine.
i reckon that Button willnot win a race this year cos ferrari will be good team and he will not get anywhere close to massa or alonso.
it will be between massa, alonso or hamilton for the championship this year. and im a mclaren fan bofore anyone says anything
I DON’T THINK HE WILL GET A DRIVE!!!!
{That’s why I didn’t put him down…} But I hope he does!
Lewis is going to destroy jenson
Sorry I will have to eat my words now. But Kamui, good luck at Sauber!
jenson shouldnt ave went to mc merc or brawn shouldnt ave changed to merc either why
Why Should A Great British Team Like Brawn Be Dissolved By Mercedes As They Should Be Aloud To Defend there Titles Under The Name Which They Richly Deserve
This New Season Will Be Dull Because There Together Unless Good Old Manor F1 Show These Corperate Teams Whos Boss Putting The Owners To Shame (Of Mclaren That is)
jenson and lewis will do the biz next year… GO MCLAREN!!!!
Please help me … BRITISCH SUPER TEAM
Great, how about an interview in German then? It appears we would only speak about beer and bockwurst, so we stick amicably to English…
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versammelten sich Heine-Referenten, Hofberichtserstatter, Narren und Kappen, in dem Event der Glaubensfrage an das Volk, nunmehr mit schwarzem Samt auf rotem Teppich! So ist das deutsche Volk das treueste überhaupt, das wusste schon Heinen! Eingesetzt werden in diesem Wintermärchen künstliche Herzmassagegeräte und Hüftgelenke”, – so als “Maulschellen für die wie zu überwindbare Talsohle”, in einem Rechtssystem, für das man Geld bezahlen muss, wenn man Recht haben will. So stimmen nunmehr die Rahmenreformen nicht mehr.
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Denn wenn “man” das Amt hat und Frau den Verstand,
ist “man” kein Substantiv, weil das n-Strich fehlt”.
Beitragserhöhung bei den gesetzlichen Krankenkassen ist in der Abbau- statt Aufbaugesellschaft als dem “Sozialstaat” nunmehr nicht mehr spektakulär, obwohl man sich über die Abschaffung der Solidarität aufregt. So verlangen die Krankenkassen, – die acht Euro pauschal und eine weitere Erhöhung ist nicht ausgeschlossen. So wird nunmehr der gleiche Betrag, – ohne Rücksicht auf das Einkommen, sowohl für besser- als auch schlechter Verdienende nunmehr als “Gleichstellungsbetrag” eingeführt, wobei das Einkommen jedoch in dieser “Ungleichheit” weiter bestehen bleibt, das die bisherige Richtlinien nach dem Einkommen abgeschafft, – mit dem Vorteil für Arbeitgeber, die sich daran nicht paritätisch beteiligen. Als Systemwechsel, ist das die Befürwortung der Abbau- und die Verneinung der Aufbau- und Auffanggesellschaft als der Abschied vom solidarischen Prinzip, das jedoch nunmehr als so unhaltbare Zumutung ist für Kleinverdiener, der en Sozialbedürftigkeit doch sowieso schon durch die Krise mehr als ausgeschöpft ist. So kann man nicht sprechen von einer gesundheits- und sozialpolitische Richtungswahl war – zumal die ärztlichen 2-Klassen Behandlungsmethoden, doch dieselben bleiben wie zuvor. Was als Kaliber als acht Euro Zusatzbeitrag bezeichnet- wird zu dem Alltag gehören, dass Arbeitgeber aus der Kostenverantwortung entlassen sind, obwohl sie nach dem Schuldprinzip handeln und dafür verantwortlich sein müssen, dass Arbeitnehmer ausgebrannt und die gesundheitspolitisch geschädigt, – so ist das die falsche Prävention.
Jeder Kassenkunde weiss, – dass Gesundheit, Geld kostet, “nicht billig ist” und rechnet mit weiteren Beitragserhöhungen für OP-Saal, neue Arzneitherapien und Pflegeheim, wo jedoch nicht auszuschliessen bleibt, dass die vorhandenen Gelder, immer mehr auch für andere Zwecke, so auch für einen in den Kosten aufwändigen Verwaltungsappararat, ausgegeben werden, – ist dies die eine Form des Einfrierens der Mittel und Bedürfnisse der bedürftigen Patienten, für ganz andere Zwecke, – anstatt für die Versorgung mit “modernster Medizin”, da es schon so auch genug Krankenhäuser gibt, die selbst an der Lebensmittelversorgung “als die eingeführte 1-Minuten-Terrinen Suppe”, – sich nunmehr halten,
als genau die bereits vorhandene und eingeführte Dumping-Qualität, die keineswegs zu einer schnelleren Genesung erkrankter Menschen beiführt, sondern im Gegenteil, – die Kosten im Gesundheitswesen steigen lässt. So ist dies ein Beispiel aus der so getesteten Praxis, – so dass die Frage nach der Qualität und Quantität neu gestellt werden muss.
Ach, ja – nachteilig wird dieses auch sein, für die kleineren, nicht so finanzstarken Krankenkassen, so dass als Folge dieser Fehlentscheidung wegen “der Befürwortung des Kassenwechsels zur momentan günstigeren Konkurrenz”, – es langfristig bei diesen kleineren Unternehmen zu einem massiven Arbeitsplatzabbau kommen wird, um mit der finanzkräftigeren Konkurrenz, Schritt zu halten um keine Kassenkunden zu verlieren. Das hier bereits diese Abwerbung, befürwortet wird, finde ich nicht verantwortlich und als untragbar, da sie letztendlich zu weiteren Steigerungen der Sozialausgaben führen wird in der Abschaffung von Arbeitsplätzen. Eine solche Entscheidung als Massnahme per Gesetz zu erteilen, kann langfristig nicht als Zumutung betrachtet werden, weil das keine Form der Solidarität ist. Wobei das Wort “Solidarität”, eigentlich von dem sprachlichen Ursprung, die Ableitung von “Sold”, also von “Geld”
bezahlen ist, was allerdings häufig mit “alle für einen” verwechselt wird. So wird diese Reform, – genau die Reform sein, die den Staat noch weitere Millionen, die nicht einkallkulliert wurden, – nunmehr kosten wird.
Die praktischere Lösung wäre in vielen Fällen, die Bevölkerung dahingehend zu sensibilisieren, das oft auch im Pflegefall, eine “im Haus-Unterbringung”, bzw. auch die durchaus immer noch günstiger sei, als die voll “stationäre Pflege” im Heim. Somit wären dann auch die bereits überlasteten Altenpfleger in ihrer Arbeit mehr entlastet, weniger krank und das führt auch zu weiteren Einsparungen. Da muss ganz klar ein anderes Modell her, wenn die Familien nicht in der Lage sind, die Pflege auf den ganzen Tag verteilt, so zu übernehmen, möchte man dort bitte die pflegebedürftigen Patienten – die in den meisten Fällen doch Ihr eigenes Haus nicht verlassen möchten, – in Tagesstätten zu bringen,
wo auch ein Zusammentreffen und ein Austausch auch in den Freizeitaktivitäten mit Gleichgesinnten stattfinden kann, so dass nunmehr bei einer
stetig immer mehr alternden Bevölkerung, alte Menschen weniger ausgegrenzt werden, – so ist dieses auch genau der Teil von dem psychologischen Gleichgewicht, durch das langfristig weitere Kosten auch in dem Gesundheitswesen eingespart werden können.
So schreibt auch die Kommentatoren hier weiter, – dass dies der Auftrag der Kanzlerin und der Politiker sei, der durch Fehlentscheidungen in der Neidgesellschaft so oft “als Profit”, die falsche Ideologie sei, als die Einführung einer anderen Form von Einkommenssteuer nunmehr auch im “freikäuflichen” Gesundheitswesen, während die Pharmaindustrie Milliarden umsetzt auf dem Markt, wobei ja auch einfach viel Geld im System, was die Praxis ja auch in dem Fall der Kosten für das Altenheim zeigt, dass die Versicherten bekommen sogar zu wenig für ihr Geld bekommen, über ein begrenztes Taschengeld verfügen. Weiter sagen die Kommentatoren hierzu dass” besonders gekniffen sind die geburtenstarken Jahrgänge”, – wozu ich noch ergänzen möchte, dass das die Menschen in den 40-iger Jahren sind, die auch den grössten Teil der Krise mittragen müssen und später weiter benachteiligt werden, so dass sich “die Pille zum Frühableben kostenlos und ohne Rezept (…)”, – genau für diese Generation durch die Steigerung der Krankenrate – so wiederum die Folge sein wird, für weitere Kostensteigerungen, so dass die Frage nach der falsch verstandenen und falsch interpretierten “Solidarität”, – an die das Volk sowieso nicht mehr glaubt, – in die Schattenwirtschaft gestellt wird.
So ist dieses auch die Gewissensfrage, der zuwenig rot dargestellten Blutkörperchen, die von der SPD beantwortet werden muss in der “Bürgerversicherung” und der Versicherung der Bürger als dem Generationsvertrag in der Zukunft für die Menschen.
So kann auch die SPD nicht als “der böse Streithahn bezeichnet werden, der nach links blinkt, – und in dem Farbenwechsel nach rechts abbiegen muss. So ist diese Bereinigungssphase nunmehr auch notwendig in den Medien und im Journalismus, wo auch bei den Damen und Herren Journalisten, – nunmehr auch Aufklärung über Sachverhalte, anstatt Hetzjagd zu betreiben. Letztendlich trägt ein schlechtes, politisches Klima, – genau wie das Betriebskima in Firmen, – keineswegs zum wirtschaftlich nunmehr notwendigen Aufschwung bei. fand nicht statt aber ein “ominöser Mißbrauch” wird hochgespielt als “Homminus hominum lupus est” (wie still ist es doch um Wulff, der hatte sich gesetzeswidrig verhalten).
Gruss Heine !!!!!
DEUTSCHLAND HILFT – KEIN SCHWEIN HILFT
Ach, – Soli so ein Lied als Abschied:
Denk´ ich an Heine in der Nacht,
hat der mich um meine Schriften gebracht
So auch veröffentlicht am 18.10 zweinullacht,
als “Die Geschichte einer Kastanie” (Anzeigen Echo!)
die auch ihm die Lösung gebracht.
Drum lies er mich mit Diplom,
als Naturtalent nun ohne Lohn.
Drum gib mir eine gute Lobby hier,
ich brauche sie und einen Job,
ich danke Dir.
Denk ich an einen Wolf nun in der Nacht,
dann bin ich um mein Haus gebracht.
So ist es das Haus, das hab´ ich mit aufgebaut,
kann Nachts nicht schlafen, weil mir graut.
Denn als der Wolf, er kam vorbei,
war das Rotkäppchen auch dabei.
Mein Herz ist schwer und gib Du acht,
so werde ich bald obdachlos gemacht!
Weil das ist das blockierte Programm,
so bot ich auch hier unten Lösungsvorschläge an.
Der Wolf ist nun auch nicht mehr da,
ich hab genug von dem trara…
So schrieb ich Deutschland hilft schon lange an,
als die e-Mail von der noch keine Antwort kam.
Drum schicke ich diese Zeilen Dir,
so hilf Du mir – ich helfe Dir!!!
Drum kann ich nicht schlafen in der Nacht,
denn du hast Millionen mit meinem Wissen gemacht!
Die Waffen wurden nun auch abgegeben,
mir bleibt nur der Verstand
und nur ein lasst mich am Leben!
So heisse ich als Christa auch nicht Wolf,
und spiele auch nicht einmal Golf.
Weil dieses Schneeballsystem mir ist vergrasst,
hast auch Du mich um einen Teil meiner Chancen gebracht!
Drum macht mich obdachlos Ihr Apostel und Richter,
dann geh´ ich nach Italien und werd´ zum Phillister.
Das Recht das ist in unserem Land,
man hat es nicht, es war aus Sand.
Aus dem Sand wurde dann das Glas gemacht,
ich bin traurig – und hab nicht gelacht!!!
So sind das hier die schlechtesten Schinken,
geh ich nach Italien, werdet Ihr meinen Wein trinken.
Drum sitz´ ich Ihr und weine nun
ich bin kein ein Mensch und kein Zigun.
So werde ich von Euch nochmals heimatlos gemacht,
ob ich das übersteh, das weiss ich nicht,
es liegt auch in Eurer Macht,
so bin ich tot