Bernie: we need more overtaking

Bernie Ecclestone said action is still needed to ensure F1 remains entertaining – and has warned that the sport got ‘lucky’ in Malaysia and Australia following rain.

After the ‘Bore-rain’ season opener, there were calls to take drastic measures to liven proceedings up. However since then, the races in Australia and Malaysia have been much more entertaining, although Ecclestone is conscious that nothing has been fixed as yet.

Indeed, rain at the start ensured the race in Melbourne was a thriller, while at Sepang the Ferraris of Alonso and Massa and the McLarens of Hamilton and Button all started out of position following a chaotic qualifying session, which left both outfits red-faced when they were caught out by the changeable conditions.

Speaking to The Daily Telegraph, Ecclestone said the lack of overtaking is the real problem. “Don’t be fooled,” he said prior to Sunday’s grand prix. “We have been lucky with the rain. We have got to do something. For the first time the teams have realised that they have to do something about it. We don’t need reverse grids – we just need more overtaking.”

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bring back 2008 season (aerodynamics, overtaking, refuelling….)2009 and 2010 seasons are boring boring and looks of f1 cars, its horrible.

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Reading a lot of comments and it sounds like people want F1 to turn into A1GP or some kind of American formula.

The problem is that every year the rules have changes. Every year everyone complains about the changes. Every year has good races and boring races. Nothing has really changed in that regard. It is just people remember the highlights of previous years and not too much of the boring bits.

As always. New rules require every team time to adjust to the format.

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Bringing back Le Mans style starts would make it very interesting.

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As long as the FIA doesn’t come up with any rules to prevent the vacuum behind a car at speed, nothing will ever change. They changed just about everything else and nothing worked. So how about it?

On engines. I think if a manufacturer wants some exposure from competing in F1, changing engines is just bad press. Any engine worth its salt should last all season. Ferrari is just being cissy.

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The rulechanges for the 2009 season made 3 factory teams leave. Mosley should have left earlier and these changes should never have been made. The return of the slicks is good and the ban on re-fueling too. But the frontwing should be smaller and the back wing wider. And no revlimit please and no engine freeze because F1 should be F1! And damn, no Turbo’s please!

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bring bach V10s

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Not enough overtaking? Too less pitstops? Really? Are they really complaining? I think its fine. A little dull yes. But this year I have to be content…

I’m guessing F1 is more like a battle between entertainment and tech research. By banning refueling teams will rely more on their cars’ performance other than race strategies.
I don’t think this will make things equal since the bigger teams or the teams with more experience will come up on top in terms of performance.
And then there’s the car weight. Gaps between cars are increasing from 0.something seconds to 1 or 2 seconds (or perhaps 9??). How is that going to encourage overtaking?
Bigger engines? Does that mean more fuel consumption which equals more fuel equals more weight?
KERS? Same result I guess.

They could introduce refueling back. But the FIA would just label it as “no contribution to the world”.

So I think about the overtaking problems its up to teams to increase their performance somehow. Unless anyone can post an idea? =0

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3 words.
BRING BACK TURBOS!

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most comments from people who dont know about F1 just saying v10 and turbos !!!!

only reason for no overtaking is downforce effect and the result of clean air being needed and poor airflow for drivers folowing so not being able to overtake

so only solution is to get rid of downforce and aero packages

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Why don’t they take a good look at the type of tarmac being used on the track? Remember Japan last year when the cars kept going off. Try a less grip tarmac..

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Yes, aero changes are needed but also, Stop going to the tracks designed by Hermann Tilke. They are all POO!

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i’d like to see a Formula 1 where the teams were set free. Group B rallying, only open wheel, rear wheel drive and on tarmac!

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@56 A J.S.Bach V10, I’d like that. Motorhead would be more appropiate though.
If they take off all the wings, 500hp is quite enough. A standard configuration of 2.0 or 2.5, 4cyl straight, with or without turbo for different classes, downforce no more than a quarter of the car’s weight. Then you’d get proper racing again, with a lot of overtaking on smaller and bumpier tracks.
If you disagree, take a good look at a frontwing and say it’s not ridiculous.

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GET RID OF QUALIFYING!!!

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kers, turbos, no double diffusers and v10s. Also all of these new curcuits suck because they have barely any straights and a million corners.

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first of all i cant blame bernie for the things he has done he was only trying to improve the sport, if it doesnt work first time try to improve it and ask around and thats what he did, but the ban on refueling that was a bad idea, the races are more enduranced based now than ever, they should really put more tech into the cars such as the active suspension on the 1994 williams cars that was used to beat the competetion, stuff like that it was revolutionary, like ross brawns trick double duffusier, everyone objected to it but they followed suit after they could get their hands on the technology, and people who think engine capping the horsepower massive BAD IDEA!!! that would really take out the overtaking it would end up like formula renualt and look how many overtakes there are in that series not many, teams should really be allowed to let loose with the horsepower and areodyamic features. and also people saying let the teams have stupid expensive budgets again that aint the way to go, think of who came in this year LOTUS 4 god sake, and prodrive was meant to come to the sport, and also people saying kers was a good idea it wasent waste of season only 4 teams had it by the end of the 2009 season waste of time wasent it ?
also turbo 2010 cars no thanks think of the turbo lag and yes i no people will say they can use anti stupid but thats not the point, why dont you try and find the room to fit a turbo and all the computers to control it on the f1 car u couldnt could u, too be frank this season 2010 has been goo soo far i no a bit boring but good soo just get on with it and then make your coments at the end of the season, like many people say things normally get bad be4 they get betta okay!!!

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Reply to #42 More teams with just 1 car ,the pit lane would be too long if there were 20+ entries plus who else has enough money to fund a team for a season.Perhaps it could be run similar to touring cars with 2 races.1 sprint race,plus a second longer more tactics based race,with time in between to completely adjust the performance.The only problem there is that most of the front runners will try to save their car for the second race.

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Reply to 67 TG Fan. Your just proposing changes for the sake of changes. You need to get to the root of the problem. This is the aero efficiency, levels off grip and an argument for the power of the cars.(their maybe more other reason’s that I’m not aware off) If you change the fundamental rules of the race you end up with a completely different series with the same fundamental problems. Has the re-fuelling ban and point’s changes fixed the problems of overtaking! No. Has a little bit of Rain help the races? Yes…Sprint races, add points for overtaking, and add points for quali. Isn’t F1 complicated enough? The idea is to gain fans not bore them!!

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more overtaking?
now you see how poor the driver are.. (i mean ferrari and mclaren) they are top driver, but they can’t do much overtaking at Sepang malaysia!

Now what is that mean? Got good starting grid then you are a winner?

I really wish either schumi, lewis, massa etc to overtake all others car into top 3 position after half race! (and wish raining too but it wont ). But i never happen. Sigh…

But Sepang race is exciting what? Especially while Alonso’s car burned last 2 lap. lol!

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Give each team 3 cars, simple, more cars more overtaking.

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Петров впереди Хэмильтона :-)

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@ McLaren fan. Not so simple but it would be great of course to see each team to have three cars. I’m not being in-your-face sarcastic but unfortunatley cars don’t grow on trees. Gone are the days of the T-car, if they were still around it would make it that bit easier. Wouldn’t it be nice if the FOM or FIA footed the bill, then again maybe not because then it wouldn’t exactly be the teams car. Who knows…

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they should take the rear wings off that would be better cars sliding around

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no limit for horsepower…and a courage pill for each driver!

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More technical freedom with a budget cap.

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