Red Bull on brink of civil war?

Red Bull face ‘a civil war’ following the controversial collision between Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel in Turkey, according to F1 commentator Martin Brundle.

The pair collided while fighting for the lead in Istanbul, with Vettel forced to retire and Webber dropping back to third place – handing McLaren a 1-2 finish and what could prove to be a vital maximum score in the constructors’ championship.

The blame game started as soon as Vettel exited his car, with the German using the commonly known symbol for ‘mad’ as he walked away from his damaged machine, while Red Bull chiefs Christian Horner and Helmut Marko have suggested that Webber should have allowed his team-mate through.

However, Brundle – who called the incident as Vettel’s fault during the BBC’s coverage of the race – again insisted that the blame couldn’t be placed at Webber’s door.

“Vettel was into the slipsteam of his team-mate heading at 200mph towards the obvious overtaking point of the turn 12 hairpin,” he wrote in his latest BBC blog. “Webber instinctively defended and left an F1 car-sized gap at the side of the road on the dirty, unused part of the track. Vettel chose to take it and moved alongside and then slightly ahead.

“At this point the German either realised he would never stop in time, or he wanted to muscle and intimidate Webber across the road to ensure a better line into the hairpin. It was a deliberate move of the wheel from Vettel, not a slide under braking. Unsurprisingly, Webber never moved, contact was made, Vettel was out of the race and Webber’s car was damaged.

“The problem Red Bull have is that it seems clear they favour their protege Vettel to take the title over Webber, who is 11 years older. They can’t claim to treat both drivers equally and then apparently favour one because the whole situation will implode between the two sides of the garage.

“Red Bull have assembled a tremendous group of people who have demonstrated the experience, dedication, and competitive energy to rise up and match the finest teams such as Ferrari and McLaren, who have decades of history and experience. They have worked together to fight the enemy but now they face a civil war just when they are on the cusp of victory.”

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The way things are shaping-up at RB, I expect to (will) see one or both drivers being replaced at the end of this season and I would not be surprised to see RB pull out of the sport within two years. There are some upset techies in MK. The three main halls at MK could be converted for other uses in a matter of hours – into caffine drinks warehouses, for example!

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me thinks webber might be leaving red bull at the end of the season (if you were obviosly unfavoured by your team wouldn’t you?) and if the rumours of a possible link with ferrari come to fruition things should be interesting

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Could have a great advantage for the McLarens

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mark webber was in my opion not at fault and horner put his arms around vettell as he is scared of losing his young prentend to to mercedes gp or ferrari

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ahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAA AAAA!!!!

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as a Ferrari fan, I had pretty much the same reaction as Fezza luva

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I know something that you don’t know! :-)
Fezza luva and J4KE H4M would love it…

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another german cheating in an F1 car..reminds me of a certain schumacher in 94 and 95…hill should have been champion in both seasons if it hadn’t have been for incidents like the red bull team at the weekend, vettel knew he couldn’t pass so instead of giving way, he took his team mate out too. ‘if i can’t be champion you can’t be champion.’ vettel knows webber is the better driver and can’t hack it….Vettel… Grow up man!

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Frustration Vettel may have had a faster car on the day,look,s like he tried to force Webber across the the track.I think the fact that McLaren were putting both of them under pressure somthing had to happen,or is there a pecking order at Redbull all in all it turned out to be a great Grand Prix for a change.

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Neither of them should admit to their mistake. Both of them before this race were on equal points. If either of them admits to making a mistake the championship drive will be taken away for them. The reason for Seb not admitting he made a mistake is that he’s afraid that Horner will say ok you can’t fight fair so you become no.2 driver.

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The smash was 100% seb’s fault, speaking from experience it is a dangerous game to play trying to indimidate someone into moving over and as seb found out a talented and profesional driver like Mark was unphased by his attempt and held his line as you would expect.

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it brought entertainment to the race i think :D

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i don’t think there will be a problem between the two red bulls as they both sat and talked it through
http://shrayyefformula1.b logspot.com/2010/06/red-b ull-new-statement-after-c ollision.html

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Mansell vs Piquet 1986: took points off each other, handed title to Prost.

Hamilton vs Alonso 2007: took points off each other, handed title to Raikkonen.

Vettel vs Webber 2010: took points off each other, handed title to Hamilton/Button/Alonso/Ma ssa/Rosberg/Schumacher/Ko bayashi

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Vettel’s fault for sure. He’s a spoilt brat. I haven’t seen anyone mention that after qualifying during the press conference it was asked to Webber why Vettel went last, and Webber replied that it should have been him and they’d have to find out what happened. i.e. We’re favouring Vettel despite the fact that Webber has won teh last two races and deserves to go last.

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that was soooooo funny when it happened!
they’re going to kill each other in a few weeks just watch!

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Mark Webber has signed up for another year….
makes a lot of the speculation above look stupid.

personally i think its was a fantastic race to watch.
i hate seeing team mates taking each other out, even though im a McLaren supporter, JB and LH could of ended up in the same boat. someone will get the blame and everyone will be disappointed one way or the other.
Canada, Alonso is looking good lets hope he can make a race of it this weekend.
Red Bull are still on top or is McLaren holding back, i hope so…
go F1.

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