Italian GP review: Vettel – the new Schumacher?

Once again, Sebastian Vettel made it look easy as he won this afternoon’s Italian Grand Prix – his second victory at Monza and his eighth of the 2011 season. After a nervy first lap in which Fernando Alonso jumped up to take the lead from the second row, Vettel re-took first place with a ballsy manoeuvre around the outside of Curva Grande on lap five. Michael Schumacher also got away well, spending a good chunk of the race in third place, before eventually succumbing to the pacier McLarens of Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button. Schumi finished the race in fifth, ahead of Felipe Massa and an extremely solid Jaime Alguersuari, while Paul Di Resta, Bruno Senna and Sebastien Buemi also took home some points.

So, with another win in the bag, Vettel is now a ridiculously comfortable 112 points clear at the top of the championship, meaning he feasibly can (and, let’s face it, probably will) take home his second world championship in Singapore in two weeks’ time. Know who the last man to win a world title with five races to spare was? Michael Schumacher – the guy who made the rest of the grid look like a bunch of amateurs with his dominance of the 2004 season.

Spotting the resemblance yet? Although he does spout a baffling brand of nonsense at times, Eddie Jordan could well have been on to something with his post-race theory that, in Vettel “we could be looking at someone capable of beating Michael Schumacher’s seven world titles.” Big words indeed from EJ, but why the hell not? Still aged just 24, Vettel’s already got one world championship (and 99% of the second) on his mantelpiece, a feat Schumacher didn’t manage until he was 26. By constantly outclassing teammate Mark Webber (following today’s retirement, Marko now sits fourth) he’s shown that he’s not just benefiting from a quick car and aside from the cock-up that handed victory to Jenson Button in Canada, he’s not made a mistake all year.

Sure, there’s still plenty of reasons not to like the guy – he’s robbed us of what could have otherwise been a pretty entertaining season, for one. But maybe now’s the time to say fair enough and instead have a go at everyone else for not upping their game. After all, we know for a fact that both the McLarens and one of the Ferraris are capable of beating Vettel in a straight fight – they’ve just been too busy falling over each other to get anywhere near him.

So if things stay that way, who’s to say we’re not in for a Schumacher-like era of total Vettel supremacy? Red Bull certainly aren’t about to kick him out of the motorhome and we’re pretty sure they’ve sold enough cans of fizzy drink by this point to keep paying Midas-fingered head designer Adrian Newey’s bills, so the car’s going to remain competitive.

What do you lot reckon – is Sebastian Vettel just a flash in the pan, or are we doomed to have that index finger thrust into our faces forevermore?

While you think about it, here are the full results of today’s race:

1. Sebastian Vettel
2. Jenson Button
3. Fernando Alonso
4. Lewis Hamilton
5. Michael Schumacher
6. Felipe Massa
7. Jaime Alguersuari
8. Paul Di Resta
9. Bruno Senna
10. Sebastien Buemi
11. Pastor Maldonado
12. Rubens Barrichello
13. Heikki Kovalainen
14. Jarno Trulli
15. Timo Glock
16. Daniel Ricciardo
17. Sergio Perez (DNF)
18. Kamui Kobayashi (DNF)
19. Adrian Sutil (DNF)
20. Mark Webber (DNF)
21. Jerome d’Ambrosio (DNF)
22. Vitaly Petrov (DNF)
23. Nico Rosberg (DNF)
24. Vitantonio Liuzzi (DNF)

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Luzzi was not doing a bad job, to break contract is wrong but the teams can do as they please, remember the saga with Kimi/Ferrari? The contracts are broken, its nothing new. They come up with a settlement for breach of contract, pay the driver to leave and bring in the new driver. Its not right but its part of F1.

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“couldnt watch Italian GP right through, I was busy so at times i was reading the live feed.. they didnt even mention Vettels pass on Alanso..”

Formuladude – if this comment from F1 Fan is true, and I’ve no reason to doubt him, it is a very important point about the commentary. If Vettel didn’t pull off that move on Alonso at that time he might have lost the race. It was a pivotal moment in the race. If it wasn’t reported in the live feed, that’s inexcusable, appalling and absolutely disgraceful.

And it is true, we all know about all the overtaking that Hamilton does don’t we. The man does have a point.

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yeah F1 fan, but my point is, that’s it’s wrong to breach a contract because of media influences. Ferrari wanted to break Kimi’s contract in between seasons so they could get Alonso. Had nothing to do with the media…

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I agree about the medias influence being a no no on reason to breach contract but we do not know what happens behind the scenes. It is a possibility that the team was already going to cut Luzzi in favor of Paul.. I do know that it does not seem right, and its not if they were influenced by media.

I didnt know about the pass till a mate text me saying “what a the pass on alanso”.. I was reading the feed on bbc at the time not being able to watch it .. they mentioned his pass later in the live commentary.. and didnt mention much of it either.. just that he got around Alanso ..

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btw the ice man to return to F1, lets hope he does and that now he has the desire to win, unlike his lack of will before he retired ..

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I agree that maybe it was nearly happening anyway and media was just reporting what the heard, another words, they might have just done their jobs, that’s why i said “Maybe it came from a rumor that he was just repeating, I don’t know, but he ceartainly was suggesting that Liuzzi give up his seat to Di Resta…”

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yeah i never really understood what happened kimi in his final years. I’m just glad he got a championship because in his earlier days he was mighty fast but McLaren just didn’t seem to give him a reliable enough car…

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sad story for him.. he went from mclaren which was off pace and prone to mechanical failure to ferraru then the mclarens all of a sudden picked up pace and reliability.. he lost interest it seems.. massa started outperforming kimi … i think that says it all. no disrespect to massa he was pretty good before the accident.. but kimi is a premium driver so for this to happen, kimi must had not been 100% .. coming back means he wants in on the action.. not sure if williams is the place for him to be but would be good seeing him on track

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f1 fan, I don’t think the Mclaren was off pace the whole time Raikonnen was there, even though it was definitely unreliable. I agree that it’ll be great to see him back though as I’ve always really liked him.

How old are you then formuladude? I’m 21 and watched as a little kid until I saw Senna crash. I started watching again in 2004. I agree that it can be boring sometimes but where can you see “proper” racing nowadays?

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From a spectator point of view Mr. Hamilton is more exciteing, however Mr. Vettel is the more measured driver. If you wanted results who would you have behind the wheel?

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the current F1 drivers are in a league that we have not seen in a long time except 2010. Alanso in a competitive car, Hamilton/Button in competitive cars, the Redbull boys and we have Schumi/Rosberg mixing it up with their Mercedes. The level of competition is high, These guys are really pushing and being tested. Except for Alanso and Schumi, the rest have not faced such competition.. this is the big leagues, you either put up or shut up.. every mistake is amplified and every weakness is prayed upon.. these mean streets of F1 are for the best of the best, come correct of get left behind.

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coulthards like got one of the top jobs at red bull i seem to remember(could be wrong,dont know).but if he has,he sure as hell knows what hes on about.what like f1fan,being in a faster car,better package(commentators have said that time and again)so uses that to defend himself?off to see what poor lulu has to wail about singapore gp

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Can you base the argument of hami having more pure talent by any fact? The theory of the car as a shield is quite strange… What do you expect Vettel to do? Not performing in Q3 so people stop babble he can just win from the start? It is something every driver tries to do, be quickest in quali and stay there. It is not conservative, it is logic.

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wher have vettels eight wins come from?somewhere called pole,which isnt where hamilton,button,alonso have won from this year

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Yes formuladude, it comes from the pole and being faster and more flawless in the race. That is how you perfectly win in every motor sport in the world which regulations include a qualifying session.
You can easily hate Vettel, don’t like his behaviour, find him cocky and boring,nobody will complain. Well except our mate f1 fan, but even he would be more calmed down. But saying things like “he is winning because of poles”, “he is winning because or hiding behind his car” or “he can’t overtake” are just utterly nonsense which can be rejected by pure facts which are easy to find in litrature and the web. It is just weak and no argumentation at all.
You said you are watching Formula 1 only for about 1 and a half year, but you would also watch old recorded races with Senna and so on. That is a good start. But you should do a bit more research of the history of teams and drivers which are not your favourites. It is the only way to really compare achievements and put them in perspective.
But to be honest I don’t blame you. I’m following the French, U.S., U.K. and German media. The UK media concentrated so much on Hamilton as a new born star and Button in his phenomenal 2009 season that nobody took much notice of Vettel. It must seem especially, for a new viewer, that Vettel was “born” in a good car. Not at all. If you take a closer look at his career he helped the teams with his work to build the perfect car around him. This is a very rare talent for a young driver. This is something that had been noticed in popular media outside of Britain much more strongly. At least this is my explanation why I find this strange attitude towards Vettel so often in UK-Blogs and forums. He is just damn quick, this is something you need to admit, anything else would render yourself as a fool. Is he the best? Probably. Is he the best in combination with his team? Most definitly! And this is what you need to be as a driver if you want to win. McLaren had a bad season preparation this year with many complications during the winter brake. Maybe next year the combination Hamilton / McLaren is more competetive and you can enjoy more races with your hero. But he needs to learn to keep his head cool and still be fast with 100% commitment, this is what he is lacking of in the past and in the moment. I think he cooled down but now he gets too defensive, afraid of doing a mistake that makes the media and the judges cutting him into half. At least I think that is the reason for him taking so long for passing Schumacher in the last race. A Hamilton 3 GPs earlier would have been looking for a more drastic method. A good sign, it seems he starts to learn. But you are right, Hamilton is the salt in the f1 soup, he is a brilliant driver. He is one of the reasons f1 is so spectacular at the moment.
And a tip: You took ign.com as a reference for hating Vettel in another comment. Don’t do that for your own good for heavens sake! A bunch of kiddos and half-wits are not a good backup for any argumentation. And this is coming from a 36 year old gamer who has a high-end pc, XBox 360, PS3 and PSP as gaming platforms…

@f1 fan: You are right in most things and many of them are backed up by good old facts. I like that. But what do you expect fans from other drivers to say, if you shout in their faces “Vettel is the best!”… even if I have to admit he is astonishingly good since the beginning of his career 2007 and is together with his car and team the best combination by far this year.
Calm down a bit together with formuladude and the dicussion here will be back on track in a bit more tolerant and more intelligent way.

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btw saying hamilton is the salt of f1 is just as crazy as the crap formuladude says… if you are speaking as a hamilton fan then yes, your fav driver is the draw for you.. imo the salt of f1 is the tech and the races itself, ive been into f1 over a decade before hamilton and will be a fan after hamilton i hope… i guess when hamilton crashes or whatever you turn off the tv b/c its not fun anymore.. thats funny

if and when vettel crashes i continue watching and enjoys it just as much, if ham wins then good on him, i applaud him on his achievement ….

ham is not as good as vettel, i say it again.. and show my how vettel is cocky, read his interview watch what he says in interviews, how is that cocky.. i guess you guys dont like the finger hu.. yep live with it, best driver in f1.. Vettel rain on wonna be sennas parade

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Mate you are losing it. Shall I tell you what is funny? You not reading carefully what others are writting. I am pro Vettel, he is even my favourite driver at the moment and I admire his talent a lot. You are starting to be in such a rush of bashing Hamilton and praising Vettel that you see in each argument pro Hamilton an attack on Vettel. Furthermore I never said Vettel is cocky, I’ve just told formuladude it is his right to say so, because it is a subjective matter, but he can’t say he can’t overtake or is just winning because of the car. These arguments are objectivly wrong. You deny formuladude any posession of logic and calling a subjective matter “crazy” because it is not in line with your thoughts? I hope it was just a bit too late in the night and maybe some alc, because your comment didn’t praise logic or objectivity at all. Vettel is very good and the fastest at the moment (something I’ve already written in my comment) now get over yourself and I repeat calm down. Your ongoing madness with constantly comparing Hamilton and Vettel starts to be boring and your urge to attack anybody saying something positive about Hamilton as Hamilton fans and shouting around how great Vettel is and how bad Lewis isn’t helping. You are complaining people tell you to shut the f up? It is not completly wrong of them…
And yes, I think people like Hamilton are a part of the entertainment. I’m entertained in both ways: watching Seb doing his awesome performance as well as watching Hamilton being a bit crazy sometimes. F1 is also about drivers and their characters, otherwise we could watch the cars driven by computers or just simulations. I don’t like it when Ham is doing a mistake and taking someone with him, but seeing him try to push hard and sometimes too hard is what I meant by salt in the soup. But a soup has of course more ingredients than salt, just important it isn’t missing…
Last thing: Should I be impressed by you saying you are watchin F1 since a decade before Hami arrived? I’m watching it since the Mansell, Senna, Prost time and there will be others here who have watched it a lot longer than that. Once again, get over yourself.

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Btw thank you for making my point. That comment was exactly what I meant when I was talking to you in my comment following the “@f1 fan:”…

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you are right cheers

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What the hack are you referring to formuladude?

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that webber needed seven years while vettel needed less than two years.

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